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Re: Programmer salary in mainland Europe?

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Contract rates in London seem to be just shooting up. Two years ago £600/day was a "high" rate. Last year £700. This year several places are offering £850/day and I've heard rumours of £1000/day or more. If you want to live in Austria, why not work in London and just commute ;-)

I had an offer of over £1000/day a few months back (it's was for a C++ lead dev at a firm no-one wants to work at).

I'm quite experienced with C++. Are these £850-£1000 rates common for C++ contract work in London?

Re: Programmer salary in mainland Europe?

#42
yeah in Spain the average salaries are quite a bit lower than most places but you can get around 45K if you have a couple of years of experience. Throw in low prices, benefits (extra tax free restaurant tickets, pension plan, health care) and in the case of Barcelona awesome weather and lot's of beaches and it becomes more of a lifestyle decision than a pure monetary one. Yeah you might make 60K+ in London but the taxes are higher the rent is over double and the food is 50% more expensive.

Re: Programmer salary in mainland Europe?

#43
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I'm a developer in Stockholm, Sweden. Making around $72-75K a year. Pretty average salary around here, I think?

I'm also a developer in Stockholm, but originally from the US. Looking at my taxes from last year, I guess that I also made a similar amount before taxes, and most of my friends earn similar amounts. After taxes this would come out to about $50K.

Previously, I worked in Germany and I earned about the same amount (before taxes), probably a bit more afterwards. However, you can't and shouldn't compare the dollar amounts directly.

First of all, the taxes are higher (especially in Sweden), but you get more out of them. Health care, for instance, is excellent and is completely taken care of, whereas this is usually calculated as a "benefit" in the US. It's not uncommon for Americans to get shafted on the health insurance or to have to pay it themselves if they are independent contractors. Also, vacations benefits here are also very ample compared to the US. Five weeks per year is standard in Sweden, most professionals get six.

Also, I don't need to own a car here. That saves a ton of money, time, and mental health. I bike/walk/take public transport everywhere here. This is only possible in a handful of American cities, of which I have never personally lived in.

Stockholm is expensive, but the quality of life here is worth it. I consider myself very lucky to earn as much as I do, and I enjoy the life that I have here, which you can't put a price on.

Re: Programmer salary in mainland Europe?

#44

I can concur that the pay sucks in France - ludicrously low compared to Australian rates (like, half!) and it's not like living expenses are lower, that's for sure. If you're only in it for the dollars, then avoid! However, bonuses are (at least for me) much much lower working hours. Which means plenty of time for side projects.

I don't know that I agree - as an Australian, my salary here in Paris, once bonuses and what not are thrown in, comes out to be about AUS$100k. Nobody in Australia has ever offered me something even remotely like $200k. And of course in France, by the time all of the RTTs are thrown into the mix, I have 9 weeks of leave a year. Thanks SFR!

I heard about the 9 weeks at SFR. How do you use it all! I'm having trouble just using up my 5 weeks.

Re: Programmer salary in mainland Europe?

#45
Hi! :)

I'm working in Poland (Python / Django / Java (in previous job)). 3 years of experience. My salary is ~ 10000$ / year. I've talk recently with friends who I've been studying with, and I earn quite nice comparing to them...

Re: Programmer salary in mainland Europe?

#46
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I am a programmer living in Vienna (currently self employed, but I was an employee not that long ago). 45,000 EUR is above average programmer pay in Vienna (that is about the same as the highest offer I ever got here, for doing java enterprise stuff about a year ago). Sounds about right. However, as a contractor you can make significantly more (500-600 euros/day).

Hey, I am also living in Vienna (or at least close to it) and I want to get self employed as well - any tips how to start? (already have a few years of programming experience under my belt and soon a master in mathematics)

Re: Programmer salary in mainland Europe?

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post #13

Heise, an IT publisher in Germany does regular surveys of IT salaries. See http://www.heise.de/jobs/artikel/Wer-verdient-wie-viel-98184...

Yeah, the German slashdot. Highly recommended if you want to get in touch with German IT - but don't expect to much ;-)

Chrome translate would work great if only it could look at text within the graph. Though I can mostly workout the English translation from the German title anyway.

Re: Programmer salary in mainland Europe?

#48
Developer in Paris here, 45K is about right. And this city is expensive, not as expensive as NYC, SF, or London, but definitely more than Barcelona.

Keep in mind the further south and east you go the lower the salaries.

Re: Programmer salary in mainland Europe?

#50
Here are statistics for germany:

http://www.heise.de/jobs/artikel/Wer-verdient-wie-viel-98184...

From my personal experience I can tell you that colleagues at the company I previously worked for in Vienna, Austria made about 42 k / year with a several years of experience and a masters in computer science. But pay was always an issue there.

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