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Additional steps we're taking ahead of the 2020 US Election

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Re: Additional steps we're taking ahead of the 2020 US Election

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post #33

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Twitter does not have a political view.

A cursory examination of their leadership's own statements makes it clear this is untrue.

Speaking of which: [0]

It is clear as day that the views of the CEO and the Twitter platform has influenced the policies and biases against certain groups and enforced bans or shadow-bans on certain users and flags tweets from certain users.

If they themselves are compromised or are part of a scandal, they will ban anyone else from spreading this information to try covering it up.

[0] https://thehill.com/policy/technology/402495-twitter-ceo-jac...

Re: Additional steps we're taking ahead of the 2020 US Election

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post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A cursory examination of their leadership's own statements makes it clear this is untrue.

You don't believe business leaders have the capacity to separate their personal beliefs from corporate policy for a company that serves over 300 million people across the world?

I believe, on the basis of evidenced behaviour, that that is not the case, no. They will consistently feel morally compelled or externally pressured by peers to put their finger on the scale.

Re: Additional steps we're taking ahead of the 2020 US Election

#133
post #8

>Second, we will prevent “liked by” and “followed by” recommendations from people you don’t follow from showing up in your timeline and won’t send notifications for these Tweets. These recommendations can be a helpful way for people to see relevant conversations from outside of their network, but we are removing them because we don’t believe the “Like” button provides sufficient, thoughtful consideration prior to amp…

Squaring it is pretty easy, I think.

Recommendation engines are neither inherently good or harmful -- think of them as an amplifier.

In normal times, they work pretty well -- it gives you more of the stuff you like, which usually isn't harmful. Just entertaining/fluff/interesting/whatever.

But closer to an election, they can be gamed and weaponized for harm -- Russia can activate botnets, fake accounts, etc. and lies spread like wildfire.

So it's not about whether the recommendation engine is good or bad -- it works. The point is that close to an election, bad actors weaponize it 1,000x more or more often than they do the rest of the time, so they're turning it off. When it's not being weaponized so much, they can keep it on.

It's like paying for a DDoS protection layer at times when you know your site is likely to be attacked, but not using it the rest of the time.

Re: Additional steps we're taking ahead of the 2020 US Election

#134
post #58

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Their recommendation engine is not harmful in all cases. I used to use Twitter to follow some machine learning/programming profiles and remember the recommendations being quite good.

This is the amazing duality of social networking: as soon as it becomes topic specific , the quality of discussion improves in direct corellation to how technical the topic gets. The moment the conversation is just general babble, anonymous / pseudonymous people will find things to argue about.

> As soon as [social networking] becomes topic specific, the quality of discussion improves in direct corellation to how technical the topic gets.

"5G spreads the coronavirus"

"Measles vaccines cause autism"

"10 scientific proofs why the earth is flat"

Re: Additional steps we're taking ahead of the 2020 US Election

#135
post #101

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By growing as large as they have, and by building automated systems to amplify content to mass audiences, they have acquired that role. It is unfortunate that their control over their responsibility is unilateral and undemocratic. But at their scale, if they chose not to try and assess the accuracy of information, but instead to blindly amplify it based on engagement metrics, that is also a political choice.

One possible option that never gets discussed is to nuke the amplification methods. If we stop recommending content automatically this ceases to be a problem.

They are nuking them right now (temporarily). It's not just being discussed, it's being done.

But most of the time people like getting content recommended. It's what consumers want.

Re: Additional steps we're taking ahead of the 2020 US Election

#136
post #8

>Second, we will prevent “liked by” and “followed by” recommendations from people you don’t follow from showing up in your timeline and won’t send notifications for these Tweets. These recommendations can be a helpful way for people to see relevant conversations from outside of their network, but we are removing them because we don’t believe the “Like” button provides sufficient, thoughtful consideration prior to amp…

Easy, because the blog post wasnt for you, it was for shareholders, advertisers and bot farms.

This is the truth. However, bringing attention to it and shaming them over it is still worthwhile since, while their actions are in line with the desire of their customers, it's contrary to the desire of the majority of their user base.

Re: Additional steps we're taking ahead of the 2020 US Election

#137

Reading these headlines is like living in a dystopian waking nightmare. This is not remotely at all the role that Twitter or any other Silicon Valley tech company should play in society.

To be a complete curmudgeon, this just seems like self-serving nonsense from Twitter.

To pretend that they have some "democracy breaking" power in their platform of the loudest 1% of individuals that actually contribute and that this needs to be tamed with special rules to protect the integrity of elections seems like an absurd fantasy.

Either they're right and their platform can be a tool used for evil in general, in which case, why limit these rules purely to one particular federal election? Or they're wrong, and this really is just some bizarre internal marketing effort.

Re: Additional steps we're taking ahead of the 2020 US Election

#138

Twitter should add an option to hide tweets from users that are not verified and make it the default. And charge $5 for verification every year and verify everyone who wants to get verified.

No serious actor would blink an eye at having to pay a few bucks to get 10,000 blue-checkmarked bot accounts.

After a short adjustment period, there would just be no non-verified accounts anymore and 5$/year would just be the regular price to use Twitter.

Re: Additional steps we're taking ahead of the 2020 US Election

#139
From the top:

From Facebook's point of view, we have recently learned that the whole circus around Cambridge Analytica was a gigantic farce and that they had no more access to anything than anyone else - and that they hardly did anything with it to begin with.

2016 taught us that even if everyone puts their chips on one candidate, and says that they have a 99% chance of winning, it may not be a reflection of reality whatsoever.

Now, given that Twitter is primarily a Democratic Party platform (no silly HN poster, I don't need to post evidence to back that up), I wonder why they are deciding to do this.

Do they know something about the election trends and which way the winds are blowing that they are intentionally trying to silence it to influence things one way or another?

If you have anything left in that head of yours, my dear HN reader, it would be a good time to flex it and read between the lines when these posts turn up. And to not believe everything you read, especially from corporations that hijack social and civic responsibilities for financial gains.

At any rate, make sure you get a comfy couch and some popcorn if you haven't. This will be a fun ride in a months time.

Re: Additional steps we're taking ahead of the 2020 US Election

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

One possible option that never gets discussed is to nuke the amplification methods. If we stop recommending content automatically this ceases to be a problem.

They are nuking them right now (temporarily). It's not just being discussed, it's being done . But most of the time people like getting content recommended. It's what consumers want.

I disagree, this isn't the nuclear option, the nuclear option is forcing these platforms to have a more editorial role in the content they're serving and that comes with a whole bunch of good and a boatload of bad.

Gigantic unmoderated platforms existing like this that promote random snippets of speech to drive user engagement and ad-revenue is a thing that shouldn't exist. The problem we still haven't solved is how to specifically kill off platforms of this type without killing forums and discussion boards in general. I think there is a distinction there but I'm not certain precisely what defines it - but if anyone figures it out please let us all know!

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