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The Nobel Peace Prize 2020

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Re: The Nobel Peace Prize 2020

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The United States are still waiting for their peace prize on the same grounds. And the peace has lasted longer.

Was America a war torn region before the states united? As far as I know, not by a long shot.

Did the creation of the EU stop some war in Western Europe?

Re: The Nobel Peace Prize 2020

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Lost all credibility to me when they gave it to Obama despite him not doing anything.

This is decidedly not true. You can do your own research as to why he was given it, as well as the process involved. To suggest he did nothing is a flat out lie.

> To suggest he did nothing is a flat out lie.

The deadline for nominations was eleven days after his inauguration. What did he do in those eleven days — other than not being Mr. Bush — that made him merit the prize?

Seriously, when I saw the headline here on HN I thought, 'oh sheesh, what now?' and was pleasantly surprised to see it go to a deserving organisation this year. That is how poor their decision 11 years ago was: over a decade later and I view the award with suspicion.B

Re: The Nobel Peace Prize 2020

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Was America a war torn region before the states united? As far as I know, not by a long shot.

Did the creation of the EU stop some war in Western Europe?

That is commonly believed, yes - it has brought together countries that had been in a bitter war less than 50 years earlier, and may well have preserved the peace.

Re: The Nobel Peace Prize 2020

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The only way the media is making Trump look divisive is by reporting his words. He has called fascists good people. He has called Mexican immigrants rapists. He has called other countries shitholes. He has recognized the illegal move by Israel to have Jerusalem as their capital (one of the only countries in the world to do so!). He refuses to endorse BLM, one of the largest popular movements in decades, and has sent…

He has called fascists good people. He has called Mexican immigrants rapists I'm not a fan of Trump's personality, but on HN, can't we be intellectually honest about politics? The statements above are not in fact what he said if you allow him any honest amount of context.

Maybe the fascists one is a little ambiguous. I believe that he meant exactly what I said, but I admit that other rational people can believe otherwise.

But for the second one he has stated 'When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.' I don't know how you can read this other than as a statement that most Mexican immigrants are drug delaers/users, criminals or rapists.

Re: The Nobel Peace Prize 2020

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Lost all credibility to me when they gave it to Obama despite him not doing anything.

It seems more like the Time magazine “Person of the year” cover. Stalin and Hitler both graced the cover at various points in time.

Time Person of the Year does sound like a prize, and I'd guess most people do think of it as a honour, but it's explicitly not that. The "Person of the Year" is some person, group, idea, or thing that Time Magazine decides "for better or for worse... has done the most to influence the events of the year" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Person_of_the_Year)

Re: The Nobel Peace Prize 2020

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Forgot about this one already? https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/peace/1978/ceremony-speech...

At the time that was given, Egypt and Israel had been formally in a state of war for over 30 years, and just a few years previously there had been a war in which thousands had died. It's not really a comparable situation. Also, it was, quite reasonably, given to Sadat and Begin, not Carter.

Sure it's a comparable situation. If UAE/Bahrain had been independent countries in 1948 they'd have in an official state of war with Israel up until now as well.

Man, people are really buttmad because Trump didn't turn out to be as much of a warmonger as, say, Obama. Count your blessings; he's done fine on foreign policy where it counts.

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