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Re: The Nobel Peace Prize 2020

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Post by thomasfl »

swyx wrote: post #10

Im not sure why this is but I'm always happier about the prize going to an organization rather than an individual person. I think literally placing the entire weight of world peace on one person is too much, and it places that person under incredible scrutiny for the rest of their life (or conversely anything bad they personally did in the past gets dragged up). handing it to an org recognizes that it takes much more…

Totally agree. The European Union got the peace prize in 2012. Europa used to be most warn torn part of the world, and the origin of two world wars. Members states of the EU are expelled if they have armed conflicts with their neighbouring countries.

Re: The Nobel Peace Prize 2020

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Post by mola »

ecommerceguy wrote: post #17
yadco wrote: post #13

Donald Trump signed multiple peace deals this year

I realize this will cause cognitive dissonance in rabid anti-Trumpers but the fact that this admin has brokered MENA deals to recognize Israel as a Nation is a very positive thing for World Peace. Unlike the constant bombing of MENA by Bush and then by Obama. Disgusting policy really. The Obama win was laughable, why did he get it again? Instead of downvotes can we get some information?

Obama getting the prize wrongfully doesn't make trump more or less suitable.

As an Israeli, I tell you, this peace deal is a joke. We've had relations with the UAE for decades, they were never hostile to Israel. It was nothing more than a photo op for Netanyahu. The UAE and Bahrein didn't even send same level representatives. The sent foreign ministers for meeting our prime minister. Seems silly, but it tells how serious this accord is.

So a peace deal that changed nothing. And will only let some arms dealers pocket extra bucks. The Palestinians will still be under Israeli military rule. Israel citizens are still targeted by missiles and rockets. Violence is still prospering here. Peace is no closer.

Re: The Nobel Peace Prize 2020

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Post by stan_rogers »

ecommerceguy wrote: post #18
onion2k wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When did that start? The Nobel Peace Prize was first awarded to an institution in 1904 - https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/peace/1904/summary/ - so, to answer your question, 116 years ago.

I think he's talking about it being a grant program. Probably tongue in cheek as well.

That's precisely the reason why it was meant to be awarded for recent work/discoveries, and cannot be awarded posthumously. It is, and always has been, a grant program.

Re: The Nobel Peace Prize 2020

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Post by mola »

kabouseng wrote: post #30
contravariant wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No matter what he did it's a bad idea to give the Nobel Peace Prize to someone so divisive.

For example someone like Obama...?

When did obama say anything devisive? When did he actively intended to enflame tense situation? When did he say anything outright disrespectful to his opposition ? Obama may not have been perfect but he was always respectful, always kept his cool.

Comparing Trump's hateful rhetoric of his opposition to How obama conducted himself is a bad joke.

Re: The Nobel Peace Prize 2020

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Post by not_a_moth »

contravariant wrote: post #28
yadco wrote: post #13

Donald Trump signed multiple peace deals this year

No matter what he did it's a bad idea to give the Nobel Peace Prize to someone so divisive.

Try listening to his addresses and speeches over the last couple years, and look at the policies he's implemented. Look at all the dishonest coverage, and yes his blunt way of talking doesn't help, but it's still hard not to conclude that the media is the primary source of him being considered divisive.

Re: The Nobel Peace Prize 2020

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Post by LeCow »

mola wrote: post #34
kabouseng wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For example someone like Obama...?

When did obama say anything devisive? When did he actively intended to enflame tense situation? When did he say anything outright disrespectful to his opposition ? Obama may not have been perfect but he was always respectful, always kept his cool. Comparing Trump's hateful rhetoric of his opposition to How obama conducted himself is a bad joke.

One thing a lot of people don't realise is that Trump is the first president in a long time that hasn't invaded a country. Sure he's authorised bombings, which president hasn't?

But I can't remember the last time a president didn't put troops somewhere. Ironically he's getting a lot of hate for pulling out of Syria/Germany.

Re: The Nobel Peace Prize 2020

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Post by aokiji »

mola wrote: post #34
kabouseng wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For example someone like Obama...?

When did obama say anything devisive? When did he actively intended to enflame tense situation? When did he say anything outright disrespectful to his opposition ? Obama may not have been perfect but he was always respectful, always kept his cool. Comparing Trump's hateful rhetoric of his opposition to How obama conducted himself is a bad joke.

Actions speak louder than words. Obama did nothing to receive the prize but being a puppet of George Soros. Trump achieved something historical in the Middle East.

Re: The Nobel Peace Prize 2020

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Post by ThomPete »

mola wrote: post #34
kabouseng wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For example someone like Obama...?

When did obama say anything devisive? When did he actively intended to enflame tense situation? When did he say anything outright disrespectful to his opposition ? Obama may not have been perfect but he was always respectful, always kept his cool. Comparing Trump's hateful rhetoric of his opposition to How obama conducted himself is a bad joke.

You din't find it divisive becauee you agree with a lot of what he says. A lot of people found it divisive and the result was Trump.

Re: The Nobel Peace Prize 2020

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Post by contravariant »

kabouseng wrote: post #30
contravariant wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No matter what he did it's a bad idea to give the Nobel Peace Prize to someone so divisive.

For example someone like Obama...?

Just because your politics only has 2 sides doesn't mean any criticism of one side is automatically in favour of the other.

Re: The Nobel Peace Prize 2020

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Post by sdfqasdghj2 »

radu_floricica wrote: post #8
BurnGpuBurn wrote: post #7

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Speaking of undeserved winners, I so hoped they would give it to the US president again...

Well, Obama got it for not being Bush so if Biden wins... They're gonna give him two?

The committee was changed after the award to Obama. Norwegians were unimpressed by that award as well.

It is unlikely to be awarded so frivolously again in the near future.

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