Here's a unique penalty technique from Ezequiel Calvente, the opposite to the stutter technique https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lXnoQdEunE&ab_channel=Rosla...
The Cat-and-Mouse Game of the Modern Penalty Kick
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#32The book Soccernomics [0], has a whole chapter dedicated to both the psychology and game theory of penalty kicks. Long story short: - Let's simplify to the options being: you kick either left or right - The goalie has to pick which side BEFORE you kick b/c by the time you kick, it's too late for the goalie to react - Your basic strategies are: always left, always right, alternate left/right or try to be as random as…
Couldn't you just memorise a few random decisions before each match? You don't need to generate it in the moment.
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#33The goalie always stands in the middle, I wonder if it would be helpful if he changed it up.
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#34I'm a big fan of the "The Lasso Special" :) (such a good show).
That show is truly one of the biggest "happy" surprises of the year for me. I had low expectations watching the first episode or two, but was blown away.
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#35I wish this article had more embedded examples. I'm not really a big soccer fan, but this sort of intersection of athletics and game theory are always interesting to see.
As a tip, if you are watching a YouTube video, you can use "." and "," to go backwards and forwards by one frame when paused. It lets you see to what degree the goalkeeper is anticipating vs. reacting.
The other issue with the article is that it focuses on successful attempts -- it would be very interesting to see what the unsuccessful attempts look like as well to get a feel for how close to a randomized decision matrix the process is.
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#36The book Soccernomics [0], has a whole chapter dedicated to both the psychology and game theory of penalty kicks. Long story short: - Let's simplify to the options being: you kick either left or right - The goalie has to pick which side BEFORE you kick b/c by the time you kick, it's too late for the goalie to react - Your basic strategies are: always left, always right, alternate left/right or try to be as random as…
In my university baby foot (table football) circles, matches usually came down to a series of deciding or guessing on near gap vs. far gap.
Shannon's Mind Reading Machine used three bits worth of address space to model humans for a very similar game: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23475069
(At less elite levels, paradiddles are a great low-budget pseudorandom. At more elite levels, using outside signals for an entropy pool has been attested.)
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#37The book Soccernomics [0], has a whole chapter dedicated to both the psychology and game theory of penalty kicks. Long story short: - Let's simplify to the options being: you kick either left or right - The goalie has to pick which side BEFORE you kick b/c by the time you kick, it's too late for the goalie to react - Your basic strategies are: always left, always right, alternate left/right or try to be as random as…
I think this is a simplification that in some ways is ignoring the main point of this article -- the Paneka kick described in the article is a kick up the middle; relying on exactly that sort of decision process by the goalkeeper.
And the new-style kick being touted is also a meta game -- trying to telegraph a still-likely-to-succeed-on-power-alone kick and changing it up for a less powerful less reliable kick to the opposite side.
If the telegraphed kick were less of a threat (that is, if the anticipated speed of the kick were slower) then the goaltender would not have to commit as much. The subtleties here are interesting, though the article is missing a discussion of failed attempts at the Paneka and the Tielemans-style kick.
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#38The book Soccernomics [0], has a whole chapter dedicated to both the psychology and game theory of penalty kicks. Long story short: - Let's simplify to the options being: you kick either left or right - The goalie has to pick which side BEFORE you kick b/c by the time you kick, it's too late for the goalie to react - Your basic strategies are: always left, always right, alternate left/right or try to be as random as…
I think this is a simplification that in some ways is ignoring the main point of this article -- the Paneka kick described in the article is a kick up the middle; relying on exactly that sort of decision process by the goalkeeper. And the new-style kick being touted is also a meta game -- trying to telegraph a still-likely-to-succeed-on-power-alone kick and changing it up for a less powerful less reliable kick to the…
This reminds me of elite poker players purposely creating certain play tendencies over years (reducing returns) and waiting to change them for specific high rewarding opportunities.
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#39Here is Mario balotelli. His technique is about shooting late. After the keeper has made his decision. One of the best I believe. https://youtu.be/G01KHew43qU
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#40The problem I have with soccer is all the pro-wrestling acting that goes into bad faith attempts to get the penalty kick in the first place.
They should make a rule that you have to play barefoot for the next five minutes if you're caught acting.