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Re: DigitalOcean App Platform

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Is it just me, or is $15/mo for the cheapest Postgres-with-backups a bit steep? Heroku's free DBs (or $9/mo basic plan) support daily backups. I've currently got a web app I'm just self-hosting on a DO VPS for $5/month. I have a Postgres DB on the same VPS (via a Docker image), with a 10-line shell script & cron job for backups to Backblaze B2 (which costs ~nothing/month for my tiny DB). Additionally, my web app is a…

If you're going to do this yourself, Caprover is the best. Cram it into that $5/month, bump the swap to 2GB and then deploy your DB into it... backups are supported if you just straight up map a persistent volume out to your B2 ( https://github.com/caprover/caprover/issues/410 ) Edit: Be aware during automated upgrades you will trip CPU alarms.

This is great, do you have any recommendations/comments on usage? Aside from the CPU one

Re: DigitalOcean App Platform

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Nice initiative but I'm gonna stick with Dokku for now, after jumping between google app engine, heroku, plain old tar over scp and other custom solutions I find dokku the perfect option for small and side projects.

dokku manage to hit that sweet spot of making everything easy and convenient but still let you do fine tweaks if you need it

Re: DigitalOcean App Platform

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post #172

I am so glad to see this. I was looking to deploy an app and the choice is either Heroku or manage your own server which I don't want to do. Heroku gives instant deployment for the most common types of apps (python/java/ruby). It's PaaS done right, it's fantastic. You should really have a look if you're not aware of it, it's only $7 for a starter app. Problem is, scaling up is about $50 per gigabyte of memory which m…

There are more options than Heroku: - Google App Engine (PaaS) - Google Cloud Run (serverless containers) - Fly.io (serverless containers with a minimum of 1 container running per configured region)

Fly.io is more exciting for me because it's edge app servers and it terminates web sockets. I've been envisioning a live-view like framework, or heck even a regular old rest api, where the client connects to the fly.io server with a single request then the app server makes a request to N number of back end processing servers using an efficient protocol like grpc.

Re: DigitalOcean App Platform

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I am so glad to see this. I was looking to deploy an app and the choice is either Heroku or manage your own server which I don't want to do. Heroku gives instant deployment for the most common types of apps (python/java/ruby). It's PaaS done right, it's fantastic. You should really have a look if you're not aware of it, it's only $7 for a starter app. Problem is, scaling up is about $50 per gigabyte of memory which m…

What problem did you have with linode? I had been using them for a couple of months and the experience so far has been great

They have a history many years back, of not being fully truthful with customers about hacking incidents. Do a google search.

relevant: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5667027

Re: DigitalOcean App Platform

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I am so glad to see this. I was looking to deploy an app and the choice is either Heroku or manage your own server which I don't want to do. Heroku gives instant deployment for the most common types of apps (python/java/ruby). It's PaaS done right, it's fantastic. You should really have a look if you're not aware of it, it's only $7 for a starter app. Problem is, scaling up is about $50 per gigabyte of memory which m…

This is spot on, except for one thing: Google Cloud Run. It's the closest offering I've found to Heroku and am planning to migrate all our services to it due to significantly better pricing. Make sure you look into it.

Google Cloud Run doesn't provide nearly the same features as Heroku. For example, there is no easy way to manage secrets with Cloud Run. There is no way to run a worker process. Integration with other Google Cloud things like Cloud SQL is clunky. Cloud Run is okay to get started but almost all apps will need more.

Re: DigitalOcean App Platform

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The problem I have is not with the model, but with the fact it is so difficult to cancel the standing charge. If it could be done from the web UI, and/or there was an interlinked pop-up when zero droplets are deployed, fine.

Wait, I'm confused. What standing charge? What exactly did you get charged for? I've been using DO for a few years and I have no idea what you are referring to. When I delete my unused resources, I don't get charged.

He probably forgot to turn off the instances and kept getting charged.

Re: DigitalOcean App Platform

#237

I am so glad to see this. I was looking to deploy an app and the choice is either Heroku or manage your own server which I don't want to do. Heroku gives instant deployment for the most common types of apps (python/java/ruby). It's PaaS done right, it's fantastic. You should really have a look if you're not aware of it, it's only $7 for a starter app. Problem is, scaling up is about $50 per gigabyte of memory which m…

I've been using Google App Engine as the backend of my scratch-my-own-itch Android app. Granted it only has 60+ active users (according to Google Play Console) but my monthly bill for that has always been You can even run multiple App Engine apps for mostly free, because their free tier is calculated based on the actual instance-hours running, and with App Engine you can configure it to that when you don't get any traffic there's no instance running (they spin up a new one when there's a new request in that case).

Re: DigitalOcean App Platform

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post #229

Is it just me or is Heroku mostly dead now? Most people I know have given up on "PaaS" and gone back to plain EC2 etc. It's just not that hard to spin up an instance and deploy a rails/django or whatever app, especially with Docker now.

I think its just you. Lots of people use Heroku, I have like 4-5 apps deployed on it, and I know quite a few smaller companies that were completely on it last I checked.

Re: DigitalOcean App Platform

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post #98

Is it just me, or is $15/mo for the cheapest Postgres-with-backups a bit steep? Heroku's free DBs (or $9/mo basic plan) support daily backups. I've currently got a web app I'm just self-hosting on a DO VPS for $5/month. I have a Postgres DB on the same VPS (via a Docker image), with a 10-line shell script & cron job for backups to Backblaze B2 (which costs ~nothing/month for my tiny DB). Additionally, my web app is a…

This sounds a bit like the "Why pay for dropbox when rsync is free?" argument. Sure you can do all of that yourself, but for just $10 / mo (5->15) you don't have to worry about it. That's really what they're selling. $120 / year for peace of mind that your production DB is backed up is well worth it for a lot of people, especially if the alternative is potentially a bug in a homegrown shell script which could silentl…

> This sounds a bit like the "Why pay for dropbox when rsync is free?" argument. Sure you can do all of that yourself

It doesn't sound like that argument. He compared it to Heroku's offerings, which are $0-9.

Re: DigitalOcean App Platform

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I was guessing KNative, which powers Google Cloud Run. https://knative.dev/

Google's Cloud Run the SaaS doesn't use KNative + K8s under the hood. It just uses a compatible HTTP API.

That's correct, though "Cloud Run for Anthos" is KNative + k8s + secret sauce though (I work on it).

Google has reached Microsoft-level naming complexity...

- https://cloud.google.com/anthos/run/

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