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Re: DigitalOcean App Platform

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Post by tupputuppu »

tidepod12 wrote: post #43
mrweasel wrote: post #15

Details aside, I think having a PAAS is awesome and something we’re really missing on AWS.

AWS has a PaaS: Elastic Beanstalk. Though I would forgive you for forgetting about EB since it sometimes feels like AWS's neglected step child.

I'm not an AWS expert by no means, but from what I've played around with it it's miles away from something like Heroku where you just have a two-line config file in your Github repo, you point Heroku to the repo and say "deploy whenever there's a commit that passed the CI/CD pipeline).

Or from this here DO innovation either.

Re: DigitalOcean App Platform

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Post by bizzleDawg »

JamiePrentice wrote: post #64
bizzleDawg wrote: post #5

I'd be interested to know if this is integrated and rebranded nanobox [0]? Or something completely from scratch? [0]: https://nanobox.io/

I was hoping to see more about what happened to Nanobox after Digital Ocean aquired them. I thought what they had was really well done and was excited to see where they took it.

Yeah, I've been keeping an eye on their site which seems to indicate they were going to release something. I guess that's not happening any more!

Re: DigitalOcean App Platform

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Post by adkadskhj »

devxpy wrote: post #35

So if I understand correctly, DigitalOcean just built an inferior version of caprover? (for which a digital ocean one-click droplet exists BTW) Caprover is essentially a really nice GUI for docker swarm, Let's encrypt and nginx. https://caprover.com/

Not an answer to your question - but as an aside, why the tone? In the classic HN example, isn't Dropbox just an inferior Rsync?

Eg, if someone wants to clone something and it manages to succeed, they clearly got _something_ right. Either a captive audience, a better UX, a better pricing structure, etc. There's almost always room for ~innovation~ competition, so why poke fun at it?

I suppose if you think it's truly inferior in every way compared to Caprover your tone might make sense - but even then, i've never heard of Caprover, if i was a customer looking for this product (and i may be) i'd probably have defaulted to DigitalOcean for this. If that alone ends up being profitable for them - a Caprover clone with a well known name - why wouldn't they do it?

I see these types of "HN Dropbox" comments on HN so frequently and i just don't get it. There's lots of angles to product viability, and these comments seem to be purposefully ignorant. Not saying you are ignorant, just that the comments seem to try to ignore any logical reason for competition.

Re: DigitalOcean App Platform

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Post by xfalcox »

I really like this, but we need lower plans for smaller managed databases.

A very small app composed of:

- App Platform using 2 containers - $12 x 2 = $24 (not sure, price is weird)

- PostgreSQL - $15

- Redis - $15

- Object Storage - $5

At ~$60 it becomes a bit too expensive.

Re: DigitalOcean App Platform

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Post by user5994461 »

throw49477721 wrote: post #108
user5994461 wrote: post #75

I am so glad to see this. I was looking to deploy an app and the choice is either Heroku or manage your own server which I don't want to do. Heroku gives instant deployment for the most common types of apps (python/java/ruby). It's PaaS done right, it's fantastic. You should really have a look if you're not aware of it, it's only $7 for a starter app. Problem is, scaling up is about $50 per gigabyte of memory which m…

How does Heroku and these app hosting services handle updates to the underlying OS and other dependencies? Do they only patch non-breaking updates? Or are you on their schedule to ensure your app will run on the latest version?

Who cares? The point is that it's their problem, you don't need to think about it, it's done for you. =)

In practice your application restarts at least once a week. It's transparent because a new instance is started first and takes over. The provider can move applications around to add/drain servers and perform maintenance.

Re: DigitalOcean App Platform

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Post by ohgodplsno »

pomatic wrote: post #88
onion2k wrote: post #16

Like all DigitalOcean products, the App Platform provides predictable, easy-to-understand pricing that allows you to control costs to prevent surprise bills. I can't see any features listed that enable me to control costs to prevent surprise bills. If a site got submitted to HN and hugged to not-to-death-because-it-autoscales then I'd wake up to a bunch of alerts and massive outbound bandwidth bill. I don't want that…

This is laughable - billing is logically separated from droplet use, so unlike other providers DO charges for the potential to use a capability, rather than actual use, regardless of whether it is consumed. I got stung badly by this - charged for X droplets capability when zero droplets capability was being used for several months. Explained the misunderstanding to DO, got no sympathy & no refund. Won't touch them ag…

You bought access to X servers knowingly (because you can't do that by accident), let them sit here knowingly, then got billed the exact number that was listed, but somehow that's DigitalOcean's fault ?

Re: DigitalOcean App Platform

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Post by stocknoob »

tobr wrote: post #99
aejnsn wrote: post #62

HN when discussing their own project milestones: "Agile everything! Organic features." HN when discussing a new product: "OUTRAGE! It must support EVERYTHING I want on launch day!"

Right, it’s almost as if there’s more than one person here, with more than one temperament.

A message board centered around startup accelerator might be expected to have a median temperament closer to a startup than a 100 year old accounting firm.

Re: DigitalOcean App Platform

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Post by 076ae80a-3c97-4 »

user5994461 wrote: post #75

I am so glad to see this. I was looking to deploy an app and the choice is either Heroku or manage your own server which I don't want to do. Heroku gives instant deployment for the most common types of apps (python/java/ruby). It's PaaS done right, it's fantastic. You should really have a look if you're not aware of it, it's only $7 for a starter app. Problem is, scaling up is about $50 per gigabyte of memory which m…

It's probably worth looking into the big cloud providers rather than the little guys. In Azure you can have an app service (a deployed app in any one of loads of languages without looking after the machine it sits on) with 1.75GB RAM for about $12 a month. Obviously your usage may vary and that will effect the price. But I get the feeling that the big players are cheaper than people think they are for small projects.
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