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Re: Eddie Van Halen has died

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Post by MrGando »

woodpanel wrote: post #27

Never knew until recently, that the amazing guitar solo on Michael Jacksons Beat it was played by him. I can't find any transcripts, but in an interview on the Howard Stern show, van Halen said (if I remember correctly) that the infamous knocking at the beginning of his solo was him knocking on his guitar, like a professional who is giving his workhorse a friendly tap before the race - and that he was amazed Michael…

Steve Lukather from Toto actually played the whole album and he's alive. Please do check him out as well, brilliant player that played at least a riff in every single important album produced in LA during the late 70s and 80s ;).

Eddie was the man though, sad times.

Re: Eddie Van Halen has died

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Post by neurotech1 »

Eddie Van Halen's famous rider(contract) has a useful lesson for tech companies.[0][1]

"It's one of those rock 'n' roll legends that turns out to be true: In the 1980s, the party-rock superstars in Van Halen demanded, via a clause embedded in their tour rider, that no brown-colored M&Ms be allowed backstage at their concerts."[0]

The reason was that if they included brown M&Ms, it was a strong indication they hadn't read the contract, which included intricate but important technical details.

[0] https://www.npr.org/sections/therecord/2012/02/14/146880432/...

[1] https://www.businessinsider.com/van-halen-brown-m-ms-contrac...

Re: Eddie Van Halen has died

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Post by caseyohara »

mhh__ wrote: post #78
lilSebastian wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Decks have neither of the examples you claim. Are you confusing an deck with a mixer, sometimes referred to as a mixing desk (though incorrectly)?

https://www.pioneerdj.com/en-gb/product/controller/ddj-400/b...

That's not a record player though, that's a DJ controller. Very different.

Re: Eddie Van Halen has died

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Post by cosmicac »

krapp wrote: post #79
cosmicac wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. Sadly, there's no defense or explanation of this, other than that moderators are arbitrarily (and in a very exclusionary way) defining what constitutes "hacker culture".

It isn't the moderators, it's the users. More people here care about Eddie Van Halen than did Kobe Bryant. I won't theorize about the rationale behind that but the decision about which celebrity obituaries stay up and which don't seems to be entirely up to the zeitgeist. If people have nostalgia for the work of someone who died, they won't flag the thread. If they don't care about the person, or other biases are at w…

Are the moderators not the ones deciding which threads get removed and which don't?

Re: Eddie Van Halen has died

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Post by YeGoblynQueenne »

His music wasn't really my style, but I remember the Heavy Metal effect pedal from Boss that my cousin owned had a booklet in it with the setups of various professional musicians - to show off how they used Boss pedals in different combinations. Everybody had complicated setups with multiple pedals. Van Hallen's "setup" went something like this:

  Heavy Metal --> cable --> jack --> amp

Re: Eddie Van Halen has died

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Post by clairity »

krapp wrote: post #79
cosmicac wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. Sadly, there's no defense or explanation of this, other than that moderators are arbitrarily (and in a very exclusionary way) defining what constitutes "hacker culture".

It isn't the moderators, it's the users. More people here care about Eddie Van Halen than did Kobe Bryant. I won't theorize about the rationale behind that but the decision about which celebrity obituaries stay up and which don't seems to be entirely up to the zeitgeist. If people have nostalgia for the work of someone who died, they won't flag the thread. If they don't care about the person, or other biases are at w…

it's hypocritical and worth calling out for discussion, not justifying with a shrug. if a particular user doesn't care about kobe, why then care enough to flag? just let it go and move on to items of greater interest. it's not a political issue rife for flamebait, certainly no moreso than van halen.

Re: Eddie Van Halen has died

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Post by leptons »

oxymoran wrote: post #17
gumby wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "thus allowing the player to create new techniques and sounds previously unknown to any player" Not including players of the pedal steel. But that's the patent system for you. In any case it's all about what you do with it.

That’s like comparing a turn table used for DJ’ing to a record player used to just listen to records. Completely different application, accessories, and technique.

The analogy does not hold up. There are quite a lot of differences between a "pedal steel" guitar, and an electric guitar. First, electric guitars do not have pedals. Pedal steel guitars do not have a resonating wood body. They produce very different sounds in very different ways.

Re: Eddie Van Halen has died

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Post by krapp »

cosmicac wrote: post #84
krapp wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It isn't the moderators, it's the users. More people here care about Eddie Van Halen than did Kobe Bryant. I won't theorize about the rationale behind that but the decision about which celebrity obituaries stay up and which don't seems to be entirely up to the zeitgeist. If people have nostalgia for the work of someone who died, they won't flag the thread. If they don't care about the person, or other biases are at w…

Are the moderators not the ones deciding which threads get removed and which don't?

Users are the ones who flag threads, not moderators. Mods will unflag threads if they don't feel they should have been flagged or otherwise manipulate rankings but as far as I know flagging is entirely from users.

Re: Eddie Van Halen has died

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Post by YeGoblynQueenne »

cosmicac wrote: post #84
krapp wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It isn't the moderators, it's the users. More people here care about Eddie Van Halen than did Kobe Bryant. I won't theorize about the rationale behind that but the decision about which celebrity obituaries stay up and which don't seems to be entirely up to the zeitgeist. If people have nostalgia for the work of someone who died, they won't flag the thread. If they don't care about the person, or other biases are at w…

Are the moderators not the ones deciding which threads get removed and which don't?

Not at all. Posts are removed when they're flagged by users and the mods don't seem to intervene. I wonder if they even have the power to intervene. I remember one post where dang (moderator) was basically trying to negotiate with one or two users who had flagged the thread to unflag it, after the title was changed (or maybe it was something discussed in the thread, this is a bit vague in my memorey, sorry). The post stayed flagged.

Bottom line: it's not the mods, it's the users. That's HN.

Re: Eddie Van Halen has died

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Post by leptons »

Lol_80005 wrote: post #50
clairity wrote: post #39

why should eddie van halen be discussed and memorialized here when kobe bryant’s death was relentlessly flagged and censored from discussion?

Nerds don't like sportball, but programming nerds like abstract creators. Eddie was a mind bending genere pushing creative force. His impact was bigger than sportball. Often other obituaries are noted here. Sportsball not so much, unless it's statistical sportsball. Van Halen is probably a stretch tbh, so I don't want to defend it too much either. This site is still better than twitter.

I often do a "Van Halen day" where I put on my headphones, crank it to 11, and play all the important Van Halen albums for about 5 or 6 hours (basically all of them up to 1984) - and I get shit done. It's amazing what switching from electronic "beats" to Van Halen for a day does for my programming.
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