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Re: Eddie Van Halen has died

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why should eddie van halen be discussed and memorialized here when kobe bryant’s death was relentlessly flagged and censored from discussion?

Van Halen was a musical pioneer, an inventor, and as you can see from other comments, part of HN constituents' culture.

somehow that makes it all ok to censor rather than just leave it be and focus on other threads?

jimi hendrix was a pioneer. van halen was another rock-n-roller.

Re: Eddie Van Halen has died

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I saw on Twitter he has a patent for a guitar... "support device" that includes the greatest patent image I've ever seen: https://patents.google.com/patent/US4656917A/en

Does anyone else find it strange that Van is actually a middle name, thus rendering his name as HALEN EDWARD VAN

“Van” is part of the surname. It means “of” or “from” in Dutch. It’s similar to “De” prefixed to Spanish surnames.

Re: Eddie Van Halen has died

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post #57

why should eddie van halen be discussed and memorialized here when kobe bryant’s death was relentlessly flagged and censored from discussion?

Rest in peace, John Lewis.

yes, an actual leader and statesman of the civil rights movement, who deserves mourning and reflection, moreso than any entertainer.

Re: Eddie Van Halen has died

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Never knew until recently, that the amazing guitar solo on Michael Jacksons Beat it was played by him. I can't find any transcripts, but in an interview on the Howard Stern show, van Halen said (if I remember correctly) that the infamous knocking at the beginning of his solo was him knocking on his guitar, like a professional who is giving his workhorse a friendly tap before the race - and that he was amazed Michael…

Wikipedia disputes this story, although it does not cite any sources on the "real" story: > Right before Van Halen's guitar solo begins, a noise is heard that sounds like somebody knocking at a door. It is reported that the knock was a person walking into Eddie's recording studio. Another story has claimed that the sound was simply the musician knocking on his own guitar.[25] The sound, however, is that of Jackson kn…

The source is supposed to be the album's liner notes, which list MJ as "drum case beater" (see below).

So if anyone have the physical copy, they should be able to confirm.

But I'm not sure if it's sufficient to say that noise id done by MJ beating drum case, though.

Re: Eddie Van Halen has died

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post #52

why should eddie van halen be discussed and memorialized here when kobe bryant’s death was relentlessly flagged and censored from discussion?

Van Halen was a musical pioneer, an inventor, and as you can see from other comments, part of HN constituents' culture.

you don't think one of the most prolific athletes in modern human history ticks a few peoples' "culture" boxes here?

Re: Eddie Van Halen has died

#76
post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m not a fan of battle style but is it really fundamentally different? Eddie’s patent is more like rotating the deck about the z axis and holding it like a guitar. Which would be pretty cool and ridiculous come to think of it :-)

> I’m not a fan of battle style but is it really fundamentally different? It gets the tone arm out of the way, which is what makes scratching a lot more feasible.

That, and the footprint of a setup is reduced when decks are placed battle style. This is important because turntablism requires a lot of very quick manipulation of both decks and mixer, and it's easier to do this if everything is a lot more compact.

That's also why you typically see turntablists using a simple, small two-channel mixer while other DJs tend to employ wider, bulkier 4+-channel mixers.

To OP's point I could've maybe dropped the word "fundamentally" in my post because at the end of the day the fundamentals remain the same, as do the fundamentals of the guitar in the patent vs regular use.

Re: Eddie Van Halen has died

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why should eddie van halen be discussed and memorialized here when kobe bryant’s death was relentlessly flagged and censored from discussion?

Agreed. Sadly, there's no defense or explanation of this, other than that moderators are arbitrarily (and in a very exclusionary way) defining what constitutes "hacker culture".

Re: Eddie Van Halen has died

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps, but modern decks have lots of features that record players don't have like effects and EQ. In this case the patented device is basically played in the same way (or can be) just in a different place. It's intended to be for tapping but that's a common pedal steel technique

Decks have neither of the examples you claim. Are you confusing an deck with a mixer, sometimes referred to as a mixing desk (though incorrectly)?

https://www.pioneerdj.com/en-gb/product/controller/ddj-400/b...

Re: Eddie Van Halen has died

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why should eddie van halen be discussed and memorialized here when kobe bryant’s death was relentlessly flagged and censored from discussion?

Agreed. Sadly, there's no defense or explanation of this, other than that moderators are arbitrarily (and in a very exclusionary way) defining what constitutes "hacker culture".

It isn't the moderators, it's the users. More people here care about Eddie Van Halen than did Kobe Bryant. I won't theorize about the rationale behind that but the decision about which celebrity obituaries stay up and which don't seems to be entirely up to the zeitgeist. If people have nostalgia for the work of someone who died, they won't flag the thread. If they don't care about the person, or other biases are at work, they will. No greater explanation is necessary than the dice roll as they do.

The culture is the culture. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Re: Eddie Van Halen has died

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then you need to stop wallowing in the shallows of the people you admire and get out in the insane expanse that is the rest of the creative world. Don't be a jerk. A guy is dead. He's mourning the loss. Let him.

I changed the wording slightly. Wasn't trying to be harsh or a jerk.

I didn't see your exact wording before but just the same to me what you said is ok.

HN (or really any forum) shouldn't be a place where people have to fear saying what they really think. I want to know what someone really thinks not what they think they have to say so that others don't jump on top of them and get them into line with what you are supposed to say.

Maybe someone should draw a line if a close relative of friend died but not a public figure celebrity etc. I read your comment more like 'get a life if this is what upsets you in some way'.

What I think? Didn't like his music (not a fan) but even if it was someone who I liked it wouldn't matter to me. For one thing (not the only thing one thing) none of these artists are typically making any good music anymore and even if they did the entertainment they provided can be easily replaced by another of thousands of artists.

By the way I would feel the same way about the worship by people about some tech figure dying or getting sick. It's not because it's music.

Harsh? Point is I don't think people should assume that everyone cares about this nor should people be afraid that they won't say the right or sensitive thing.

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