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Tesla dissolves its PR department

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Re: Tesla dissolves its PR department

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Post by gamblor956 »

AtlasBarfed wrote: post #114
gamblor956 wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's full of the usual anti-Tesla cherrypicking, sarcastic one-liners, fumbling for clickbait headlines that zombie gawker Jalopnik has to use every day to eke out any engagement possible. Clearly you are unfamiliar with Jalopnik. All of their posts are full of cherry-picking, sarcastic one-liners, and clickbait headlines. They don't single out Tesla for special treatment (good or bad), nor should they.

Go ahead, go through the last two weeks of headlines and show me three headlines about GM, Ford, Toyota, FCA, etc that are as negative as the typical Tesla headline. The mainline auto makers get kid gloves compared to Tesla. But then again, auto press always knows who pays for the buffets and junkets. I've been on jalopnik for what seems like a decade now, through the Univision years and the PE Spanfeller years, and…

Don't need to go back 2 weeks to find negative posts about other automakers.

The top article on Jalopnik right now: "The Mercedes G-Wagen Is Objectively Impressive But Still A Dumb Car"

The next article: "Jaguar XE And XF Sportbrake Wagon: Dead"

Followed by "Mercedes-Benz Gives Up On Manuals"

Meanwhile, after a Tesla suffered catastrophic structural failure that could have killed or maimed someone, the title of the related article is simply: " Brand-New Tesla Model Y's Roof Flies Off on First Drive Home."

Re: Tesla dissolves its PR department

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Post by chrisseaton »

warkdarrior wrote: post #118
chrisseaton wrote: post #81

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Can't you advertise? Put your own message out on your own terms. Why work with journalists who may turn against you?

Advertising by definition is biased. In contrast, journalists sometimes provide balance to company announcements.

Right... so why would the company want that filter?

Re: Tesla dissolves its PR department

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Post by simion314 »

belval wrote: post #113
simion314 wrote: post #26

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Because trust, I seen yesterday some customer reporting a dangerous Tesla quality issue on reddit and it was "attacked" by fanboys and strong evidence was requested. If a journalist would like to report this problem then you would probably like Tesla to have some competent person to respond but seems you prefer the "Tesla did not responds to journalists anymore". Btw I am referring to this post https://www.reddit.com…

Maybe it's the reddit filter but most comments seem to be jokes? I don't see comments attacking OP on the post you linked... Now to address you actual point, what would a PR person do here exactly? "Tesla is investigating the issue and will not provide any comments at the current time"? They fixed the car so their internal metrics will ensure that whatever issue caused this will get fixed. It's not economically sensi…

Maybe some of the bad comments were removed since I read the thread.

My point was this: OP said something like "press is evil, Tesla does not need PR"

My point: I would like that maybe 3 paid journalists contact the customer, the dealership and Tesla(so PR contact needed for Tesla) and 3 articles are published with this 3 different sources rather then each individual attempt to contact on it's own the involved parties and try to find the truth.

Re: Tesla dissolves its PR department

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Post by Traster »

This is exactly why electrek get accused of being Tesla's PR department. In no meaningful way is the headline true, it's this stupid trope that Tesla doesn't advertise, but you can look through this thread and see the thousand ways they do.

Re: Tesla dissolves its PR department

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Post by macinjosh »

bryanlarsen wrote: post #52
drannex wrote: post #40

Are we just going to ignore that they have an 'External Relations' department? And that their own jobs board has positions posted two weeks ago for "Marketing & Communications", PR positions all across China, and for "Community Relations Partner"? This "news" is pure fabrication. https://www.tesla.com/careers/search#/?keyword=Communication...

The definite news is that they have stopped responding to emails from Jalopnik and Electrek and other news organizations. The article explicitly explained that personnel from PR moved into External Relations. The headline is far more sensational than the article. But that's been standard practice for centuries, not "pure fabrication"

> that's been standard practice for centuries, not "pure fabrication"

That's a logical fallacy: Argumentum ad antiquitatem [0]

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_tradition

Re: Tesla dissolves its PR department

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Post by yifanl »

macinjosh wrote: post #126
bryanlarsen wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The definite news is that they have stopped responding to emails from Jalopnik and Electrek and other news organizations. The article explicitly explained that personnel from PR moved into External Relations. The headline is far more sensational than the article. But that's been standard practice for centuries, not "pure fabrication"

> that's been standard practice for centuries, not "pure fabrication" That's a logical fallacy: Argumentum ad antiquitatem [0] [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_tradition

This isn't a formalized debate forum, a logical fallacy (alone) does not invalidate a commentor's rationalization.

Re: Tesla dissolves its PR department

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Post by s1artibartfast »

canadianwriter wrote: post #104
s1artibartfast wrote: post #102

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Arranging test drives for influencers seems more like marketing to me, and Tesla certainly has not dissolved their marketing department.

PR is one part of marketing...

therefore dissolving PR /= dissolving marketing

Re: Tesla dissolves its PR department

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Post by athms »

iqihs wrote: post #119
messick wrote: post #116

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How many roofs of cars from those manufactures were torn off during the drive home from the dealer?

Are you seriously implying that Tesla is the only major manufacturer that experiences defects/recalls...

Tesla is selling new cars with holes in the body panels, scuffed body panels, misaligned body panels, different shades of paint on body panels, dirty interiors, materials in the drive train that corrode within months, etc... These problems are well documented. Tesla makes luxury vehicles, they are not competing with Yugo or Fiat. For that kind of money one should expect better quality.

Re: Tesla dissolves its PR department

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Post by wcarron »

AtlasBarfed wrote: post #114
gamblor956 wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's full of the usual anti-Tesla cherrypicking, sarcastic one-liners, fumbling for clickbait headlines that zombie gawker Jalopnik has to use every day to eke out any engagement possible. Clearly you are unfamiliar with Jalopnik. All of their posts are full of cherry-picking, sarcastic one-liners, and clickbait headlines. They don't single out Tesla for special treatment (good or bad), nor should they.

Go ahead, go through the last two weeks of headlines and show me three headlines about GM, Ford, Toyota, FCA, etc that are as negative as the typical Tesla headline. The mainline auto makers get kid gloves compared to Tesla. But then again, auto press always knows who pays for the buffets and junkets. I've been on jalopnik for what seems like a decade now, through the Univision years and the PE Spanfeller years, and…

That's BS. I read jalopnik regularly for brainless amusement and car news. You're perceived slant against tesla is baseless. They regularly shit on H-D for their idiotic product decisions, chevy and BMW for their idiotic truck/M car grilles, nikola for fraud lately, tons of other cars/manufacturers, and yes, they shit on tesla for poor QA practices, dickish moves on resold cars, and being run by a petulant egomaniacal manchild.

What's the deal with tesla fans? Sure, every brand has fanatics and haters, but tesla fans are special. They froth at the mouth like an attack dog. Any single miniscule criticism of tesla is treated like you'd pisssed on the dinner table. They're like some hybrid of a 12-year old who thinks the supra has 1000 horsepower stock, and a basement dweller who thinks the Oculus is the pinnacle of technology.

Seriously, what's in the kool-aid and why has no one called the FDA about it?

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