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Re: Hiring for tech jobs has increased more than 100% in these Midwestern cities

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Post by ok_coo »

jacobriis wrote: post #62
dexwiz wrote: post #17

Moved from the Midwest to the Bay Area, and tech comes in two forms: IT departments at major industrial firms (manufacturing, chemical, pharma, etc), or companies that are eventually bought by West Coast companies. The pay cap is much lower. Becoming a millionaire through stocks and wages is harder, but you will still be in the top 10% of earners overall. If you want to live in a mansion, the Midwest makes this dream…

"What you will find is that people are friendly, as long as you look like them (white)." Be aware that when people say things like this they often do so to feel virtuous themselves like only they are so enlightened that only they even consider being friendly to non white people. The idea that people in the Midwest (which has a population of over 65 million people similar to France and the UK) are only friendly to whi…

If you're native american in the midwest, you will experience discrimination and your life will be harder than it needs to be. Similar to the difficulties that other POC experience. It's just the way it is, better than it used to be but it's still there and it's naive to think this is a problem that has gone away.

Source: my family.

Re: Hiring for tech jobs has increased more than 100% in these Midwestern cities

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Post by Dirlewanger »

ethanbond wrote: post #53
mountainb wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Versus the highly spiritual experience of living in the pod, eating the bugs, paying the $4,500 every month to the landlord of the one bedroom, answering e-mails at 11:24 pm to be able to pay for it etc.

You oughta go to a better city. Also, non-consumerist does not imply spiritual.

Every growing city right now is going to be like that though. Block-after-block of Chipotle, Jamba Juice, and Whole Foods, 5 story apartment buildings with ground floor occupied only by the aforementioned.

Re: Hiring for tech jobs has increased more than 100% in these Midwestern cities

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Post by managerclass »

goodells wrote: post #19

I'm surprised not to see Madison, WI on this list. Our tech sector has been strong and growing for several decades - locally we have Epic Systems, Exact Sciences, Promega Corporation, Thermo Fisher Scientific, several large insurance companies like American Family Insurance, Sentry Insurance. It might be easy to miss the agglomeration of these companies in one area because some of them are technically in different mu…

Probably because it's measuring the last 3 years and Madison already had a sizable tech workforce for many years now.

Good area. Wish more people wore masks though.

Re: Hiring for tech jobs has increased more than 100% in these Midwestern cities

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Post by dahfizz »

encorekt wrote: post #10
blakesterz wrote: post #3

I'm not quite sure on the reliability of this site, but assuming it's reliable... "And, as icing on the cake, seven of the top 10 most affordable states in the nation are in the Midwest." Name any big city you've heard of in the Midwest, and it's on the list. Chicago, Detroit, and so on. The list is, for the most part, "rust belt" cities that are all doing pretty well these days. I'd say the one thing they all have w…

That's not wrong, but as a Midwesterner, I think you also have people have legitimately enjoy experiencing all four seasons. And in cities with good public transit systems (like Chicago and Minneapolis) the damper of driving in crappy weather isn't as present.

As a new englander, I can confirm that it's really nice to have weather and seasons. It would be boring if every day all year was the same.

Re: Hiring for tech jobs has increased more than 100% in these Midwestern cities

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Post by learc83 »

scarmig wrote: post #69
jacobriis wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"What you will find is that people are friendly, as long as you look like them (white)." Be aware that when people say things like this they often do so to feel virtuous themselves like only they are so enlightened that only they even consider being friendly to non white people. The idea that people in the Midwest (which has a population of over 65 million people similar to France and the UK) are only friendly to whi…

Or maybe they themselves have experienced discriminatory behavior in the Midwest? As an LGBT guy, I'm always direct when pointing out that I left the South partially because of discrimination, and someone is always happy to butt in to say I'm making it all up and the South is perfectly open and tolerant. It gets tiring.

>I'm making it all up and the South is perfectly open and tolerant.

I'm sure you're not. But "the South" is diverse. Atlanta has a very large LGBT community (both in absolute terms and as a percentage) and culture that is completely different from areas just an hour away. It's very possible that you and the people you are talking to had completely different experiences.

Both of you are almost certainly overgeneralizing your experiences when you say "the South".

People who live in the South get upset that the country likes to pretend that the rest of the country outside a few urban centers is any different. That is, if you had left the South for the rural or suburban Midwest or most of Pennsylvania, you'd likely have had a similar experience.

Re: Hiring for tech jobs has increased more than 100% in these Midwestern cities

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Post by DetroitThrow »

santaclaus wrote: post #76
DetroitThrow wrote: post #64

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There are plenty FAANG engineers minted from the top Midwestern schools - think CMU and other state schools - even if they rank behind the top schools on the coasts. Top paying tech jobs tend to be found on the coasts though as well.

> There are plenty FAANG engineers minted from the top Midwestern schools - think CMU and other state schools - even if they rank behind the top schools on the coasts. CMU is a private school, ranked number 1 in CS, and is not in a Midwestern state! That said, there are lots of top CS programs in the Midwest.

Yeah, I meant to say CMU is a private school unlike the other leading Midwestern schools which are generally public. Pittsburgh is pretty far from the east coast, so it being in Pennsylvania doesn't really make it a 'coastal school' in my eyes, so I'll continue to lump it in with its geographic neighbors, though perhaps 'Rust belt' region is more accurate than Midwest for what I'm trying to b describe.

What ranking puts CMU at 1 in CS? Just curious because I usually see it behind a couple coastal schools.

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Post by scarmig »

prepend wrote: post #90
scarmig wrote: post #69

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Or maybe they themselves have experienced discriminatory behavior in the Midwest? As an LGBT guy, I'm always direct when pointing out that I left the South partially because of discrimination, and someone is always happy to butt in to say I'm making it all up and the South is perfectly open and tolerant. It gets tiring.

“The south” is a really big region so maybe someone pops up because you’re tarring an entire region based on your individual experience. As an LGBT person, I grew up with people telling urban legends about gerbils and whatnot. Perhaps they witnessed a single person doing this, but attributing it to a large group is not very accurate. I grew up in the south in a super backwards small town and now live in a really forw…

I'm tarring an entire region because I say, truthfully, that I left it because I experienced discrimination there? Can you elaborate the ways I'm obligated to caveat and contextualize my experience so I don't hurt other people's feelings by honestly relaying it?

Re: Hiring for tech jobs has increased more than 100% in these Midwestern cities

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Post by [deleted] »

BurningFrog wrote: post #49
vdnkh wrote: post #24

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This is a very consumerist world view (get big house, get fun toys) that not everyone believes in. I choose to live in a more vibrant city where I essentially trade my money for opportunity, experiences, and community.

What do people mean when they say a city is "vibrant"?

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Re: Hiring for tech jobs has increased more than 100% in these Midwestern cities

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Post by jacobriis »

nharada wrote: post #103
jacobriis wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"What you will find is that people are friendly, as long as you look like them (white)." Be aware that when people say things like this they often do so to feel virtuous themselves like only they are so enlightened that only they even consider being friendly to non white people. The idea that people in the Midwest (which has a population of over 65 million people similar to France and the UK) are only friendly to whi…

Nobody is saying every single person in the midwest is only friendly to white people. This is so obstinate it doesn't even seem genuine to me. At the risk of feeding the trolls -- I grew up in the midwest. I can tell you that I both experienced racism myself and saw a lot of it in my high school both in students and from my classmate's parents. Of course everyone isn't racist, and most folks are friendly and acceptin…

OP: "What you will find is that people are friendly, as long as you look like them (white)."

P: "Of course everyone isn't racist, and most folks are friendly and accepting."

If these statements are equivalent, you have my apologies. English is not my native language. I think I will have to study for 10 lifetimes to understand.

"Some people are friendly only if you look like them" would be a more defensible claim. Probably that is true everywhere on earth.

But, the text of the original statement is about the behavior of Midwestern people [1] generally towards non white people generally.

[1] Not all Midwestern people are white in any case. Nebraska: 86%, Ohio: 82%, Illinois: 71.5%

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