.NET Orleans

Post by shanselman » Tue, Oct 06, 2020, 10:30 AM UTC

Thaxll wrote: post #87

tmpz22 wrote: post #81

I spent some time learning dotnet core this year and with the slow-grind progress Microsoft has made it really does look like the technology stack might start to replace Java, Go, Rails, NodeJS, over the next decade. You can really feel Microsoft's experience in language development and enterprise software development coming together to provide better ecosystem ergonomics than other frameworks and toolchains. Specifi…

I'm pretty sure net core will remain for a long time in the enterprise world before making anything in the more open source / general public. It's 2020 I can't name a single server side known application built in net core.

Post by andymac4182 » Tue, Oct 06, 2020, 10:51 AM UTC

Thaxll wrote: post #87

tmpz22 wrote: post #81

I spent some time learning dotnet core this year and with the slow-grind progress Microsoft has made it really does look like the technology stack might start to replace Java, Go, Rails, NodeJS, over the next decade. You can really feel Microsoft's experience in language development and enterprise software development coming together to provide better ecosystem ergonomics than other frameworks and toolchains. Specifi…

I'm pretty sure net core will remain for a long time in the enterprise world before making anything in the more open source / general public. It's 2020 I can't name a single server side known application built in net core.

Post by davidfowl » Tue, Oct 06, 2020, 10:53 AM UTC

FridgeSeal wrote: post #186

manigandham wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lack of higher-level language features requiring code duplication/generation, a lean standard library usually necessitating 3rd-party packages, and an utterly terrible module system and fragile tooling setup. Go is still far better than JS, but both are behind in modules, packaging and overall structure as compared to .NET. gofmt is nice though, more languages should have that.

For all it's other woes, I've had like 80% fewer issues with Go's tooling than .Net's. - Getting packages installed: trivial - Getting clean builds: trivial - Build and run works near perfectly In comparison .net seems designed to be used _only_ via Visual Studio: - Why does it re-download the packages each time I ask it to build? - Why does VS freak out sometimes when there's a terminal window left over from a previ…

Post by johnnycerberus » Tue, Oct 06, 2020, 11:38 AM UTC

tmpz22 wrote: post #81

I spent some time learning dotnet core this year and with the slow-grind progress Microsoft has made it really does look like the technology stack might start to replace Java, Go, Rails, NodeJS, over the next decade. You can really feel Microsoft's experience in language development and enterprise software development coming together to provide better ecosystem ergonomics than other frameworks and toolchains. Specifi…

Post by boogies » Tue, Oct 06, 2020, 12:36 PM UTC

greggman3 wrote: post #128

boogies wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> its coming to dominate the games industry as well Really? I was of the impression that Unity C# is the old, established player in this space, while Godot (which supports C# but doesn’t force it at all) is growing among hobbyists and indies and may eventually pass the current popularity of Blender in VFX and go on to dominate the games industry in a few years or a decade.

That's seems like very wishful thinking. Why would you assume Godot would ever be able to truly complete with Unity (or Unreal). It's got 1/10th the features and probably 1/100th to engineers. Also less support, less people using it, less people teaching it, less people creating tutorials for it, etc... etc...