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Why most Hacktoberfest PRs are from India
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Re: Why most Hacktoberfest PRs are from India
#92Thanks for writing this. I do agree that the idea of resources being constrained and the mentality to do the minimum required to meet bar is quite prevalent — and the educated & well-paid aren't immune at all.
I can't generalize it, but I see a subtler version of this in the corporate spaces as well – lack of care towards accessibility, missing attention to details in PRs, focus on "getting things done" with the current knowledge set, not worrying too much about the "commons" .
I do hope though that this is a just a phase a developing nation has to go through — because we've seen more than enough exceptional talent originate from here as well.
Re: Why most Hacktoberfest PRs are from India
#93I am Indian-American, and while I cannot comment much about the culture of Indians in India, I can comment a bit about the culture of Indian-Americans, especially second-gen Indian Americans like myself. Many of my Indian-American classmates exhibit the behaviors described in this article. For example, in my high school (a magnet program for gifted students), there were several Indian-American students, many of whom…
>> I was lucky to have very "Americanized" parents who didn't raise me with these backward attitudes. You miss the entire point of the article. You are privileged not only to have Americanized parents, but you are privileged because you are an American . Your world is way better than that of a common Indian student. Most Indian students need a job, just to be able to feed their families. Quoting from the article: "Wh…
I recognize that these "backwards" attitudes I described may make sense in India, since as you say, the culture and society is very different there. I consider these attitudes to be backwards in the US.
Re: Why most Hacktoberfest PRs are from India
#94This is all a very long winded way to say "a popular YouTuber asked teenagers to do something and they did it". Take out all the cultural aspects of it, and an Instagram/TikTok/Twitch influencer doing this here in the USA would have the exact same result, so I'm not sure I buy all the later reasoning.
I disagree. I think the key point was that most Indians don't even know what they're doing is immoral. And the post spends majority of its space explaining why this problem is kind of unique to India.
> I think the key point was that most Indians don't even know what they're doing is immoral.
Well they know its immoral they just dont care.
Re: Why most Hacktoberfest PRs are from India
#95I am Indian-American, and while I cannot comment much about the culture of Indians in India, I can comment a bit about the culture of Indian-Americans, especially second-gen Indian Americans like myself. Many of my Indian-American classmates exhibit the behaviors described in this article. For example, in my high school (a magnet program for gifted students), there were several Indian-American students, many of whom…
Please. Being a doctor is boring? It is challenging to be a doctor, and it is almost impossible to cheat through the USMLE (US Medical Licensing Exam) process. It is a 3 step process, which includes four tough exams taken at registered centers, which are actively monitored. I'm saying this as a spouse of a physician who has gone through the journey, and the amount of work they put in through their med school, USMLE,…
Three things: first, I never said it was easy, only that it was fairly conventional. Second, I never said that anyone cheated on the USMLE (I agree that would be quite hard). Third, some of these comments suggest that somehow I have no idea what it takes to be a doctor. As a matter of fact, my mother is a pediatrician and a professor at one of the top 10-15 medical schools in the US, so I have a pretty good idea what it takes. I acknowledge that it is an important and demanding job; nevertheless, I think it is a fairly conventional and unimaginative path to take in life, compared to, say becoming an artist or doing a startup.
Re: Why most Hacktoberfest PRs are from India
#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
Please. Being a doctor is boring? It is challenging to be a doctor, and it is almost impossible to cheat through the USMLE (US Medical Licensing Exam) process. It is a 3 step process, which includes four tough exams taken at registered centers, which are actively monitored. I'm saying this as a spouse of a physician who has gone through the journey, and the amount of work they put in through their med school, USMLE,…
Thank You for making clear that the OP has no idea of what he is talking about. Simply because the path to a Doctor/Engineer guarantees you some basic safety net in life is why so many choose it. It does not make them "boring".
Please read my comment one level higher in this thread.
Re: Why most Hacktoberfest PRs are from India
#97I am Indian-American, and while I cannot comment much about the culture of Indians in India, I can comment a bit about the culture of Indian-Americans, especially second-gen Indian Americans like myself. Many of my Indian-American classmates exhibit the behaviors described in this article. For example, in my high school (a magnet program for gifted students), there were several Indian-American students, many of whom…
I'm also an Indian from one of the "top" engineering colleges and what you say is very much true for what I have seen first hand during the 4 year degree course. Unfortunately the reason here is definitely cultural. I was lucky that my parents didn't force me to become an engineer or doctor (though it was by choice) but for majority of my friends since 9th std, it was about getting into IIT and their whole life and t…
Yes, this culture is exactly what I was talking about.
Re: Why most Hacktoberfest PRs are from India
#98I am Indian-American, and while I cannot comment much about the culture of Indians in India, I can comment a bit about the culture of Indian-Americans, especially second-gen Indian Americans like myself. Many of my Indian-American classmates exhibit the behaviors described in this article. For example, in my high school (a magnet program for gifted students), there were several Indian-American students, many of whom…
>> I was lucky to have very "Americanized" parents who didn't raise me with these backward attitudes. You miss the entire point of the article. You are privileged not only to have Americanized parents, but you are privileged because you are an American . Your world is way better than that of a common Indian student. Most Indian students need a job, just to be able to feed their families. Quoting from the article: "Wh…
I'm from a poor background and I didn't cheat. Nor did I commit bogus pull requests just to pad my resume. These things poison any community trust, put people into positions that jeopardize other peoples lives, and make meritocracy a joke.
What does is say about a person if their attitude is that these things are okay if you are from a certain background? It says that they care about the background of the person more (for whatever reason, good or bad) than the damage it does to the communities that they interact with. Consider the consequences of this.
Re: Why most Hacktoberfest PRs are from India
#99tl;dr because of population, people step on each other to feel 'successful' and get approved by their family/peers. unfortunately this happens in many places if not all. (eg same cr*p applies here in Turkey, if you're male and not a doctor or engineer or government employee, basically seen as failure) it is apperantly much more visible/causing problem because of lack of resources, strict cultural values as well as dr…
Belgium and the Netherlands have a higher population density, the flanders subregion even more so, you don't see such behaviour propagate there in such prevalence.
Re: Why most Hacktoberfest PRs are from India
#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's interesting because I've always found someone being "certified" for e.g. Microsoft something is a huge turnoff for hiring.
Agreed -- and an especially big turnoff is a "cert collector", most of which have done the absolute minimum required to get each of them, i.e. mostly rote memorisation. It's a very Quantity over Quality mindset.
On the plus side, at least you know they knew it at some point in time.