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Re: What is the best dumb TV?

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Post by rainbowzootsuit »

canucker2016 wrote: post #117
crazygringo wrote: post #102

Some people are suggesting just don't connect your smart TV to the internet, others are suggesting it might still connect to open (unsecured) Wi-Fi networks. Is there any major brand of smart TV's that will attempt to connect to open networks, in order to download updates, ads, send back data, without your consent? I've never in my life had a Wi-Fi-enabled device that would connect to a network I didn't tell it to, a…

This reddit user said their Samsung TV connected to a nearby open WiFi AP. see https://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/bpr6xs/if_you_choo...

Features: 4K Pixelssize™ Dolby gave us some letters to put here HDMI, VGA S/PDIF, An old coat hanger Wardriving supported

Re: What is the best dumb TV?

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Post by m463 »

michaelmior wrote: post #42
Nextgrid wrote: post #29

I've heard of Ironcast.TV whose entire selling point is the lack of "smart" features, though I haven't ordered one and I'm not sure if they even shipped any, but on paper it looks nice and reasonably priced: https://displayy.studio/ironcast.tv/

I'm not sure what you mean by lack of "smart" features. Everything is controlled via an app. Sounds the opposite.

I thought I looked at it and it had an API.

I don't know... their site has changed a bunch and seems to have tons of tracking links

Re: What is the best dumb TV?

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Post by m463 »

crazygringo wrote: post #102

Some people are suggesting just don't connect your smart TV to the internet, others are suggesting it might still connect to open (unsecured) Wi-Fi networks. Is there any major brand of smart TV's that will attempt to connect to open networks, in order to download updates, ads, send back data, without your consent? I've never in my life had a Wi-Fi-enabled device that would connect to a network I didn't tell it to, a…

there's also ethernet over hdmi. I'm uncertain how that gets exposed - possibly game consoles, or collaboration with tv box manufacturers.

Re: What is the best dumb TV?

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Post by biztos »

jedberg wrote: post #143
simias wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I still remember the near-instant channel switching from the 90s, when analog signals and CRTs where the norm. You could change channels on a dime. Now with complex video and audio codecs, video post-processing and shoddily coded software there's been a very severe downgrade in that department. I don't have a TV at home but every time I'm in a hotel or my parent's place I notice how laggy it is when I'm just browsing…

That video is already laggy compared to what I remember as a kid. If you were watching OTA analog the channel change was near instant. Even on our cable box it was near instant.

Was it not actually instant?

My recollection from the 80's was you switch the channel (physically) and it's... switched!

So was there some magical latency there that I just couldn't perceive, or are the "near instant" reports talking about some other type of TV? Or something else?

Re: What is the best dumb TV?

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Post by Nextgrid »

Wistar wrote: post #105
nfoz wrote: post #52

LG sells them as some of their "Business" tvs, intended e.g. for hotels. In Canada some of them are branded as "Commercial Lite". Here's an LG 65" 4k HDR dumb TV: https://www.lg.com/ca_en/business/commercial-tv/lg-65UV340H I have a similar model from a few years ago (purchased from Canada Computers fwiw), and I love it. Because I don't notice it exists. It just does its job, like a TV should.

Along those lines are the commercial display panels intended for digital signage and advertising use. They usually have a very bright picture, are very durable, and have typically been quite expensive but that seems to be changing. Here are some LG commercial displays ranging from 43" to 86" and priced from $745 to $3,850: https://www.displays2go.com/P-42023/86-Inch-4K-Ultra-HD-TV-A... Here is a brief article from 20…

It's kind of ironic to be using a device made to display advertising to combat advertising itself.

Re: What is the best dumb TV?

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Post by hesdeadjim »

I’m quite content with the Sony I purchased a few months ago. It was simple to make dumb, I just never connected it to a network. Compared to other manufacturers user interfaces it’s quite low key and out of the way.

Re: What is the best dumb TV?

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Post by akeck »

I've decided that I'm going to replace our decade old workhorse Toshiba with a 43" "gaming monitor" (e.g., Phillips) when it dies. We'll just get a stand alone digital tuner or use MythTv et al.

Re: What is the best dumb TV?

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Post by summitsummit »

grawprog wrote: post #121
davidhyde wrote: post #73

My advice is to stop seeing a “smart tv” as a feature and see it as an expensive piece of equipment subsidised by extra advertising revenue. Don’t get upset about this, just understand it for what it is. Now, what can you do about it? Easy, don’t connect it to the internet. They will tell you that it needs updates but come on, what is a security vulnerability going to to to something that’s only output is a screen an…

Smart 'X' in general has become synonymous with 'paid for by your data we scrape 24/7' at least when it comes to most consumer range products and platforms made by big tech companies... Smart phones Smart TVs Smart speakers Smart doorbell/security cameras Smart home systems If there's one thing these all have in common it's: 'Known privacy issues regarding tracking and data collection by large tech companies.' When a…

> profited additionally by your data we scrape 24/7

since it's not necessarily "paid for" via the advertising

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