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Re: Social anxiety is crippling my life, what can I do to stop it?

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Rejection Therapy http://www.rejectiontherapy.com is a game that helps people overcome shyness and social anxiety by taking on small challenges. Each challenge increases your comfort zone and your confidence. I've done the 30 day Rejection Therapy challenge and, while it wasn't easy by a long shot, it did help me immensely. I'm much more comfortable starting small talk with strangers than I was before. Remember, your…

I'm curious about your experience, so please elaborate more if there's anything interesting you can share.

Re: Social anxiety is crippling my life, what can I do to stop it?

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post #15

I strongly recommend seeing a behavioral therapist. This is exactly the kind of thing they're trained for. It's what I did over a year ago, although for other reasons. It saved me a bunch of time and agony, although therapy can be pretty harsh sometimes as well. Regarding social anxiety: I was pretty much the same at your age, and I think the reason was simply a severe lack of self-esteem resulting in excessive self-…

What else did the professional tell you that helped? I'd rather just read a blogpost about it than pay per hour :)

Re: Social anxiety is crippling my life, what can I do to stop it?

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I can tell you one thing: it gets much easier later because when you're older you'll think less about what other people think about you and more about what you think about other people. The other side of the coin is that you'll become much more picky about who you would consider an interesting person. Another great divider that I've observed is that there are two kinds of people: emotional and analytic. The trick is…

"Between an emotional and an analytic personality there's very little to talk about really because the world looks so different when seen mostly through emotions versus mostly through analytic cognition." Wouldn't seeing the world differently offer more to talk about?

You could suppose so but lacking common words, common perceptions, common anything it becomes pretty hard to communicate.

At best you'll just end up arguing about the meaning of things—and usually the situation further implies a different style and way of arguing.

Not that you couldn't do meaningless smalltalk with just about anyone but that doesn't give much to either one, much less make them friends easily.

Re: Social anxiety is crippling my life, what can I do to stop it?

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post #15

I strongly recommend seeing a behavioral therapist. This is exactly the kind of thing they're trained for. It's what I did over a year ago, although for other reasons. It saved me a bunch of time and agony, although therapy can be pretty harsh sometimes as well. Regarding social anxiety: I was pretty much the same at your age, and I think the reason was simply a severe lack of self-esteem resulting in excessive self-…

This is one case where seeing the number of upvotes would be valuable. There is a lot of (very well-intentioned) advice on this thread that it gets better with time, etc and while that is probably true, parent's comment is right on the money. Therapy can feel like a weird step to take but it really does work. Cognitive behavioural therapy and exposure therapy helped me deal with my anxiety much more effectively than I ever would have been able to on my own.

Re: Social anxiety is crippling my life, what can I do to stop it?

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"Self diagnosing" can be dangerous, and you should probably seek out some professional guidance as well - possibly two or three to see if there's any consensus.

I want to say I felt the same during the highschool->university transition. I think I did have similar attitudes for several years. One of the only things I learned during that period is that self-pity is not attractive or desirable on any level - eventually it wasn't even attractive to myself.

You may not be destined to have a lot of friends outside of class or work, and that's 100% fine. I've never had many friends, but I do work at having deeper friendships with the ones I do have, and I've found that's something that can only come with a mixture of time and experience. As we've grown up and apart, my few friends and I stay in touch, and it's been great. I'd rather have these few strong friendships than a bunch of the casual "hi-hello" kind.

You made all these "friends" in HS simply because of shared geography - everyone was forced to be in school, so there wasn't much of a choice. It's natural that most of those 'friendships' won't survive. Don't dwell on the fact most of them weren't solid or strong in the first place. Even if many of them appeared strong, solid and "for life", trust me, 99% of them aren't.

You may want to consider taking some acting lessons and/or public speaking lessons - joining a local toastmasters group, for example. If your public speaking is good, you'll naturally have a point of conversation with people, and that will naturally lead to many other tangents, yet in a controlled space.

One of the things I've learned over the years is that many people lack a self-confidence, or at least feel awkward in social situations. Not everyone, of course, but many more than I'd guessed. I'd assumed everyone else already had it 'figured out', and that assumption has led to some bad decisions over the years (based on assuming people were intentionally excluding me, for example). Be assertive/proactive, even when you don't feel it (that's where the acting lessons come in) and you'll be regarded as such - people judge you by the behaviours you exhibit, not what you think inside your head.

I consider myself an introvert - scored highly I on Meyers-Briggs for years - but most people who know me might consider me an extrovert these days. I may even have changed some over 20 years on Meyers-Briggs, but I still consider many of the core I traits to be mine. However, I've learned to be able to be 'on' socially, which has led to some good friendships based on professional interests, and some of those are leading to stronger friendships outside the original shared interests. Only time will tell for certain, but I'm enjoying seeing where they lead.

I also realize I'm now talking past your original point a little bit by not addressing the 'friends' thing as much as just 'being in public'. Being in public and groups of shared interests will lead to some friendships forming, but few will form if you're a wallflower who never talks to anyone.

Trust me, you can change over time, but you need to adjust how you think of other people, and you need to be forceful in getting what you want. If you see someone you think you'd like to know better, ask them to grab a cup of coffee, or instigate that with a few people from work or a local club. Meeting outside the regular group/work setting can let you develop/craft/express more of your own public persona without violating any of the norms of the original group. You can see how people react, and make changes accordingly. Lather, rinse, repeat.

Lastly, don't work hard at building meaningful relationships. Well... don't ignore them, but the most meaningful friendships I have are ones I don't have to 'work' at so much, because the other person is just as interested in keeping it going. My deepest friendships now started off very casually, at work/school, and in one case we really didn't even like each other at first. We each assumed too much about the other.

"Work" at friendships - yes - you need to sacrifice your own time for the other person, but if they're never giving back to you, it's not a friendship, you're being used, so get out.

You're young. You can change your life and attitudes and behaviours to be whatever you want. Don't waste this time.

Re: Social anxiety is crippling my life, what can I do to stop it?

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I use to be highly constricted by my social anxiety when I was younger, I couldn't drive in a car, go to a restaurant, I couldn't eat in public, or during a family dinner.

The best thing I ever did was make the realization that what was holding me back was myself and knowing this allowed me to take a "fuck this shit" attitude towards the entire situation. Over time, I regained my life and was able to do things that are considered normal. I also went to a psychiatrist for a while to learn some coping methods like breathing exercises.

You can beat it, I still at times have problems with anxiety but they are nothing compared to what they once were.

My overall best advice is to get yourself in the proper mental state.

Re: Social anxiety is crippling my life, what can I do to stop it?

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post #22

Rejection Therapy http://www.rejectiontherapy.com is a game that helps people overcome shyness and social anxiety by taking on small challenges. Each challenge increases your comfort zone and your confidence. I've done the 30 day Rejection Therapy challenge and, while it wasn't easy by a long shot, it did help me immensely. I'm much more comfortable starting small talk with strangers than I was before. Remember, your…

I'm curious about your experience, so please elaborate more if there's anything interesting you can share.

Sure, hit me up on my email and I'll answer any questions you have.

Re: Social anxiety is crippling my life, what can I do to stop it?

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post #15

I strongly recommend seeing a behavioral therapist. This is exactly the kind of thing they're trained for. It's what I did over a year ago, although for other reasons. It saved me a bunch of time and agony, although therapy can be pretty harsh sometimes as well. Regarding social anxiety: I was pretty much the same at your age, and I think the reason was simply a severe lack of self-esteem resulting in excessive self-…

"Try to worry less about people thinking of you as "the quiet guy". They probably don't think as much about you as you believe they do. They mostly think about how they appear to others, just more moderately than you (hopefully)."

Upvoted for this. I can't tell you how many life opportunities I've missed or wasted because I'd assumed other people thought a certain way about me, only to find out later they weren't thinking about me at all. While feeling 'ignored' may feel bad, I've come to realize that 99% of the time it's unintentional, and people just focus on themselves. That's it. Unless I give them reason to want to include me in something, such as, by being a good friend, interesting conversation starter, bringer of fun food, whatever the relationship calls for, they'll have no real reason to consider me as opposed to the other 105 things they're juggling in their mind.

Until I got older and started doing my own thing and realizing how much I was forgetting other people - unintentionally - did I realize how unintentional other people were being.

Generally, people aren't thinking anything about you, so quit thinking they're out to get you, hurt you, ignore, you, etc. Not necessarily advice for the OP, just a life lesson learned way too late in life!.

Re: Social anxiety is crippling my life, what can I do to stop it?

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post #23
post #15

I strongly recommend seeing a behavioral therapist. This is exactly the kind of thing they're trained for. It's what I did over a year ago, although for other reasons. It saved me a bunch of time and agony, although therapy can be pretty harsh sometimes as well. Regarding social anxiety: I was pretty much the same at your age, and I think the reason was simply a severe lack of self-esteem resulting in excessive self-…

What else did the professional tell you that helped? I'd rather just read a blogpost about it than pay per hour :)

I am obviously not mitsche, but this is my experience:

I think it obviously depends on people's personal situations and circumstance. Anxiety in particular often presents in an almost paralyzing manner - being accountable to a therapist in that case is extremely valuable. It's also easy to dismiss certain ideas when reading them that a real live therapist won't let you ignore so easily - for example, I learned breathing and focus exercises that I would have felt silly trying if it weren't for my therapist. Possibly most importantly, a good therapist will understand your condition better than you do, and advise you accordingly. Not all anxiety disorders have the same cause or the same symptoms.

As far as payment goes, there are often cheap or free resources for therapy, especially for university students. For example, I made use of a free clinic run by my school's psychology department, which is open to the public.

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