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Re: Which colour scheme is better?

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> I wanna do the same with you: try it for one week, and let me know whether you're switching back to a dark theme or not. So, I tried light themes predominantly from about 1995-2015, after using dark themes predominantly from 1985-1995, and before using dark themes predominantly from 2015-present. But, sure, a week will make a difference.

So the author is probably not speaking to you personally. It's a valid test for people that only use dark themes though. Why the snarky response?

Dark themes were not common until recently, almost everyone tried light theme.

Re: Which colour scheme is better?

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> However, using a light scheme with mostly text, you have a huge rectangle of LED (most of the time) white light blaring at you, which itself causes eyestrain. I'll basically repeat my comment from below, but ergonomically set up displays meet ambient brightness, but don't exceed it (much). If you're sitting in front of a display set to 80 % brightness (~300+ cd/m²) in the evening, you're simply holding it wrong and…

I have three screens. I adjust the brightness on all of them twice per day, but you couldn't pay me to navigate the on screen displays with the mushy buttons more often than that.

Good news! There’s a protocol that lets you do this programmatically, DDC/CI. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu... has a couple of recent posts that went into it, with various community recommendations.

Re: Which colour scheme is better?

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> However, using a light scheme with mostly text, you have a huge rectangle of LED (most of the time) white light blaring at you, which itself causes eyestrain. I'll basically repeat my comment from below, but ergonomically set up displays meet ambient brightness, but don't exceed it (much). If you're sitting in front of a display set to 80 % brightness (~300+ cd/m²) in the evening, you're simply holding it wrong and…

I have three screens. I adjust the brightness on all of them twice per day, but you couldn't pay me to navigate the on screen displays with the mushy buttons more often than that.

ClickMonitorDDC is a tool that lets you do that from software, you might want to check it out if you're doing it manually so far.

Get the URL from here, maybe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Display_Data_Channel#External_...

Re: Which colour scheme is better?

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That's a pretty interesting post. I'd never heard of the Pulfrich Effect.

For myself, I prefer an "off-white" theme, with a light parchment background. The old Xcode "Sunset" theme used to be my go-to. They have removed that, now, so I modified the Classic (Light) theme to have a parchment background, and that does me fine.

I find it kind of amusing how much some folks use choices of editor/theme as a "value judgment" on our skillset.

People do what's comfortable, and what helps them to work more efficiently. In some cases, it's all CLI, in a spartan black and white screen, for others, it's Romper Room GUI. Whatever helps us to work more effectively. Even if it's a "placebo effect," if it helps me to be more productive, it helps me to be more productive.

There's a number of singers that perform barefoot, and are highly skilled (Google "Rhiannon Giddens" I saw a video where she sang at the White House, and wore a really long dress). Basquiat would often paint in Armani suits (and barefoot).

Every now and then, I'll try something new. I'll usually give it several days, before making a decision. Sometimes, I adopt it.

It took me months to become effective at a standing desk. It was an issue of health, for me, so I powered through all the awkwardness.

Re: Which colour scheme is better?

#66

Trying to claim light color schemes are scientifically better based solely on the The Pulfrich effect is absurd. The best color scheme for programming is the one you like and can comfortably look at for extended periods of time. Your eyes are different than mine so trying to claim this is a scientific means of determining the best color scheme is about as useful as you telling me what my favourite color is based on '…

> solely on the The Pulfrich effect Did you read the whole post? There's - The Pulfrich effect - The way human eyes are built - The case of astigmatism - Studies targeted towards computer screen use

I have enough of astigmatism to have it corrected in my glasses and yet the colour scheme I found the most comfortable over the years is Zenburn. Though I do prefer the high contrast version with darker background.

The only time I managed to use a light theme for an extended period of time was a couple of years in a room with weird lighting and reflective screen of an imac. That's when I was using Solarised Light, because my Zenburn just couldn't provide enough contrast.

Then I moved to a different room and it was back to Zenburn.

Re: Which colour scheme is better?

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>it's not good to work in the dark. well I might be working in the dark because I am sitting in the same room as my sleeping son because he might have problems if nobody is there. I assume other people might have similar reasons why they would be in the dark instead of a well lit room at night, given that most people have electricity and know how to switch on the lights.

Bias lighting might be a good option. Just light the area behind the screen to reduce the contrast of the bright screen, but still leave the remaining room somewhat dark.

you're right that might be a good enough solution.

Re: Which colour scheme is better?

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Over-bright displays relative to the ambient light are definitely an issue. I've found myself feeling much less strongly about light vs dark since I installed some LED strips on the back of my monitors as bias lighting. (I didn't want to dim my monitors much more because you do lose contrast when the backlight is low)

Contrast ratio is largely independent of backlight brightness. Intuitively this makes sense, because the panel is essentially just an adjustable light filter, which you'd expect to behave linearly. Example: https://www.prad.de/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/lg-34gn850-ko...

Panels do, however, also reflect a fraction of ambient light.

Re: Which colour scheme is better?

#70

Related: high- versus low-contrast. Most colour schemes are low-contrast, and I haven’t the foggiest idea why, because I’ve always hated that, and find it makes no sense whatsoever (zero) as a decision. I used to use molokai (dark, fairly high contrast); a few years ago I decided to build a new minimal, light, high contrast one from scratch, which I called “bland”, inspired by the printed code of yesteryear. Paired w…

Some people complain about afterimage on high contrast dark themes. I'm definitely in your camp though.
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