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What exactly is the national security risk with TikTok?
They’ll know all the social media patterns and likes of 14 year olds!
And that is somehow acceptable?
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Re: Judge temporarily blocks U.S. ban on TikTok downloads from U.S. app stores
#42Unlike some other commenters below, I don't believe that this is a privacy issue. Instead, I believe that it is a national security issue because TikTok is controllable by the CCP which is ideologically opposed to the United States. The next global conflict will likely be one between the east and the west, with control of information being advantageous to both sides in the conflict. China already blocks the western I…
What exactly is the national security risk with TikTok?
Propaganda. You don't have to bother making troll farm accounts to spread misinformation and sow doubt when you control the platform and can create and drip content you want into peoples feeds, and you know what they like, you're already serving them an addictive stream of content based on their behaviors.
Re: Judge temporarily blocks U.S. ban on TikTok downloads from U.S. app stores
#43It's a national security issue. Plus, if you sue the government order from any courts in CA, you will win anyways these days. CA is too liberal to remain in US, I remember they were saying CA-Independence from USA after 2016, I can't wait to support it, but those people somehow did not proceed, very disappointed.
I don't think most Americans would be too keen to forfeit 15% of the country's GDP [1] to own the libs.
[1] https://www.statista.com/chart/9358/us-gdp-by-state-and-regi...
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
So the correct course of action, in your opinion, is to move towards a China-style legal system? If not, then what's your point?
It sounds like OP is arguing for reciprocity. Why should we give due process to Chinese companies if American companies are not given due process in China? Chinese companies are taking advantage of our tolerance and fairness. We should be intolerant of intolerance.
I love this line of reasoning. Next step is labor camp for non-Uighur Chinese, I guess; on American soil, no less, and inmates will be working for Apple and Nike
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#45Yayyyyy, nothing like allowing people to be Chinese agents unknowingly!
Re: Judge temporarily blocks U.S. ban on TikTok downloads from U.S. app stores
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
What exactly is the national security risk with TikTok?
Propaganda. You don't have to bother making troll farm accounts to spread misinformation and sow doubt when you control the platform and can create and drip content you want into peoples feeds, and you know what they like, you're already serving them an addictive stream of content based on their behaviors.
What makes TikTok different than literally any other website in this manner?
Re: Judge temporarily blocks U.S. ban on TikTok downloads from U.S. app stores
#47We need to push back on this nonsense in journalism in which journalists don't include a link to the opinion when writing an article describing that opinion. There is not enough information included in the article to meaningfully comment on the situation. Edit: here is the order, which is very short: https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.222257/... The opinion is under seal, and the parties have been d…
Available here: https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.222257/.... As a sibling comment noted, the actual opinion is under seal, as evidenced by https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/18455532/tiktok-inc-v-t... "SEALED MEMORANDUM OPINION. Signed by Judge Carl J. Nichols on 9/27/2020. (This document is SEALED and only available to authorized persons.) (zcal) (Entered: 09/27/2020)".
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that'd probably kill every American social media app on the app stores as well, not sure they're ready to do that.
Yes! Shut em all down ! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook–Cambridge_Analytica... https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/2019/09/ftc-s... https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/04/03/599069424... If you can't give a shit about the security of your user's personal information / safety , you shouldn't exist.
I agree with the activist spirit! But you have to realize that the incentives of legislators are to first create a strong economy and to maintain the dominance of the US tech sector. If you come to them with a plan that will seriously harm their operations then you won’t even get a meeting.
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't see how those are analogous. Shouldn't you be complaining that a Chinese court didn't temporarily block the Apple ban?
Precisely. There is no legal remedy in China for cases such as Apple's, a situation that the Hacker News et al. communities blandly accept in silence while valorizing attempts by ByteDance and WeChat to game the US system for profitable access. Why the Western world accepts as legitimate the products of a closed society that relies on ubiquitous censorship and withholds free access to the outside world through a nati…
Most of the world should ban US-originating social networks, then ; also cars, planes, music, movies, and intellectual property
Re: Judge temporarily blocks U.S. ban on TikTok downloads from U.S. app stores
#50Unlike some other commenters below, I don't believe that this is a privacy issue. Instead, I believe that it is a national security issue because TikTok is controllable by the CCP which is ideologically opposed to the United States. The next global conflict will likely be one between the east and the west, with control of information being advantageous to both sides in the conflict. China already blocks the western I…
What exactly is the national security risk with TikTok?
child forces parent to install tiktok so they can watch memes, parent works anywhere sensitive TT pwns that phone