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Firefox's JIT is getting significantly faster

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Re: Firefox's JIT is getting significantly faster

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Google needs Firefox to exist for anti-trust reasons. If they don’t buy fire fox’s traffic, bing will.

Safari and edge are enough, I doubt google needs Firefox as a competitor like gates needed Apple (and injected funds)

I thought Edge was now a paint job over Chrome?

Re: Firefox's JIT is getting significantly faster

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I definitely look down at people with .info domains. The effect is alive. (TLDs are stupid at this point. If it was up to me we would kill all of them except .com and .org)

> kill all of them except .com and .org A bit tangential, but ignoring reality for a minute wouldn't it make more sense to kill .com and .org as well and retain only the country codes (ie .us, .uk, .cn, etc)? At least it would make the various jurisdictional issues clear. (In a perfect world, I also wish there were legislation forcing any and all local government entities to use appropriate .gov. domains. It is incre…

Hmm that's an interesting idea. I personally like the idea of "cyberspace" transcending national boundries (i know, eyeroll), which is why i'm a fan of only .com, but your proposal makes a certain amount of sense.

Re: Firefox's JIT is getting significantly faster

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A 10-15% speed bump in CPU performance is certainly nice but in most cases it's not going to be something that users are consciously aware of. Web page performance varies a lot due to network performance, new versions of websites being deployed, different ads being served, and so on. This noise obscures things enough that it probably won't be easy to attribute a change in performance to the browser if you're not look…

If they want to actually improve user experience they can always include uBlock Origin by default - its permissive license should allow this just fine.

Despite it being an absolute dumpster fire in other ways, the new firefox android almost has that. It's nice for telling my friends who I've gotten to switch over to just open firefox, open the hamburger and tap addons then addons manager, then tap ublock origin at the top of the list and that's all it takes to get my friends rolling with it. They're all extremely happy with the new firefox and don't notice how webpages are pretty broken in it now.

Re: Firefox's JIT is getting significantly faster

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It's sad how these valuable optimizations are unknown to the average person. When I hear "the browser" discussed in almost any parlance, the implication is Chrome. It's rare to even hear someone say "Chrome," as it's the defacto choice for the non-mobile web. Convenience breeds ignorance.

Or Mozilla’s leadership was distracted by a bunch of meaningless distractions instead of focusing on unsexy things like this and lost out to a competitor.

It wasn’t the users that lost interest in Firefox. It was Mozilla that lost interest in Firefox.

Re: Firefox's JIT is getting significantly faster

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It's sad how these valuable optimizations are unknown to the average person. When I hear "the browser" discussed in almost any parlance, the implication is Chrome. It's rare to even hear someone say "Chrome," as it's the defacto choice for the non-mobile web. Convenience breeds ignorance.

I say "my car", not "my hyundai".

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Is it even possible to access about:config on Android? In the new Daylight Firefox, I just get an error page. There are a whole lot of other options I'd like to set...

You need the beta version to access it, but there is an open issue on Github to reenable it in the stable version again.

Re: Firefox's JIT is getting significantly faster

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I did not say that jvm historically hasn't gotten a lot of resources, but any innovation done there has been common knowledge for compiler developers for ages. V8 gets to benefit from all that research, while simultaneously having far more resources (now as well as for the past many years) to apply it, as well as do more of their own.

Perhaps I’m misunderstanding you, it seems like you’re implying that the JVM, as of today, isn’t the source of a lot of research or innovation. If that’s true, you’re incorrect. There’s a _gigantic_ amount of money, time and people involved with it, arguably more than there ever has been, and it’s only getting bigger. While you’re correct that some of the knowledge that came out of building the implementation of the…

> There’s a _gigantic_ amount of money, time and people involved with it, arguably more than there ever has been, and it’s only getting bigger.

Just wondering why this is the case? Who are the sponsors for GC research?

(HFT outfits?)

Re: Firefox's JIT is getting significantly faster

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It's sad how these valuable optimizations are unknown to the average person. When I hear "the browser" discussed in almost any parlance, the implication is Chrome. It's rare to even hear someone say "Chrome," as it's the defacto choice for the non-mobile web. Convenience breeds ignorance.

I say "my car", not "my hyundai".

For obvious reasons :D

Re: Firefox's JIT is getting significantly faster

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It's nice to see some actual good news involving Firefox. With all of the leadership and financial struggles lately, it's made me worry that the browser I've been using for the last 17 years doesn't have long to live. Hopefully that is not the case.

Is there any way we as a community of users can help ensure Firefox remains viable in the event that Mozilla can no longer provide enough support? It seems a shame that such a loved & enjoyed project might fall wayside without significant financial backing. I would say I would love to help, but I have no domain expertise in browsers/rendering, or how I would develop enough to contribute.

I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again. I would happily pay $10 a month for a brand “deluxe” version of Firefox. We all complain about how Firefox isn’t making money and we continue to exist in a world where I cannot pay for it.

It boggles the mind.

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