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Re: Firefox's JIT is getting significantly faster

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Post by keeganpoppen »

billiam wrote: post #155
gkoberger wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think pg sums it up the best: http://www.paulgraham.com/name.html "The problem with not having the .com of your name is that it signals weakness. Unless you're so big that your reputation precedes you, a marginal domain suggests you're a marginal company." I'd say there's a few major reasons: protecting the name and signaling we're a real company to larger corporations. For us, we also host websites that allows JS/…

Whew, that is the sentiment of a true plutocrat and elitist. You're weak unless you're rich and pay to rent in the good part of town. Sure, it's desirable to look serious to commercial partners and investors, but mostly it's an Internet branding tax. Most of your customers will Google your site.

man what is with takes like this nowadays? hi, welcome to human nature, where people judge books by covers, and have since time immemorial. why do you think people go to the McDonalds in Cairo right next to the pyramids? (hint: it's not because of the authenticity of local experience)

that's not the "sentiment of a true plutocrat and elitist" at all-- it's the sentiment of a realist. and what is a "true plutocrat", anyway? sounds like some "no true scotsman" / eye of the holder bs to me, honestly.

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Post by m3at »

nerdponx wrote: post #183
gkoberger wrote: post #76

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Mozilla (the Company) has always had problems. They want to be something they're not. But the people on the Mozilla engineering team are top-notch and rarely affected by company drama (and probably feel the same way as you do about it). Mozilla is one of the few places you can do this specific type of really interesting engineering work, without having to be at Google/Apple/etc. (ex-Mozillian here :) )

What happens to the Firefox core dev team if the Mozilla Foundation's main revenue source -- the Google search tie-in -- dries up? Google is probably just waiting for the day that Firefox market share is below a threshold of viable competition, at which point they'll pull the plug on the search engine contract and it's game over for the Mozilla Foundation, unless the Mozilla Corporation can step in and save it, which…

It's possible Google will keep paying what is peanuts to them not to be technically an absolute monopoly (by keeping Firefox alive at insignificant usage level)

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Post by Tagbert »

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #192
wenc wrote: post #181

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Just curious (not being snarky): what is the advantage of kepeing 500 tabs open? How does it work? I rarely have more than 10 open, and I've been using tabs ever since tabs on browsers were invented. (I was using browsers before tabs existed) I feel I might have missed some trend here.

Since you ask an honest question, I will give an honest answer: > How does it work? Poorly. I do this because I open tabs for a project and then move on to the next thing before I finish, and serializing into a bookmark folder is more work than I'm willing to invest in the moment. I'm trying to get better at keeping work in real tickets but it's still more work than just leaving the tabs out for future-me to come bac…

I use and love the Panorama View plugin that lets me setup groups of tabs for different project. Then it is easy to switch between groups. It lets me focus the browser on just one project at a time and makes those tabs easier to deal with.

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Post by sp332 »

notriddle wrote: post #174
squarefoot wrote: post #123

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That is bad, I hoped to be able to help in some way. They're underestimating how much their logo and a short description could help to boost the product adoption.

In order for the two-company Foundation/Corporation system to be even remotely legal, they must actually operate as distinct entities. That means the Foundation and the Corporation have separate bank accounts, separate employee rosters, and, as a result, they can legally be taxed differently. If the Foundation started employing Firefox developers, they would have to convince the tax man that those developers were not…

It's not that complicated. The Corporation sends the Foundation a significant chunk of money every year as "royalties" for the use of the name and logo. If the Foundation wants to pay for a few more developers, they can just decrease the "royalty" charges.

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Post by ifmpx »

Kiro wrote: post #139
spitfire wrote: post #115

Great. Now it's time to start throttling JS in browsers. Give them the equivalent of a few MHZ or a few seconds runtime to play with and no more.

Yeah, that would be awesome for web games.

They can request additional compute time through the browser's standard permission request system.

Re: Firefox's JIT is getting significantly faster

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Post by vorticalbox »

indolering wrote: post #146
rattray wrote: post #65

10% faster with less memory use and simpler code / data models - nice work! Excited to see the end result. Hopefully HN users on nightly are able to try it out and give feedback.

How does this impact security? Most of the proposals I've seen for improving Firefox's security requires more memory and the blurb on the mailing list cite that they require less type information.

Probably not directly however simpler code usually has less bugs and is quicker to debug.

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Post by Reelin »

bawolff wrote: post #185
billiam wrote: post #155

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Whew, that is the sentiment of a true plutocrat and elitist. You're weak unless you're rich and pay to rent in the good part of town. Sure, it's desirable to look serious to commercial partners and investors, but mostly it's an Internet branding tax. Most of your customers will Google your site.

I definitely look down at people with .info domains. The effect is alive. (TLDs are stupid at this point. If it was up to me we would kill all of them except .com and .org)

> kill all of them except .com and .org

A bit tangential, but ignoring reality for a minute wouldn't it make more sense to kill .com and .org as well and retain only the country codes (ie .us, .uk, .cn, etc)? At least it would make the various jurisdictional issues clear.

(In a perfect world, I also wish there were legislation forcing any and all local government entities to use appropriate .gov. domains. It is incredibly difficult to explain to the average person why a few government websites have .com or .org or other random TLDs, and the inconsistency of it all makes things easier for scammers.)

Re: Firefox's JIT is getting significantly faster

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Post by Reelin »

zaphirplane wrote: post #194
ulimn wrote: post #167

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> Most of your customers will Google your site. And that's why seeing ".com" is important. You just proved his point, duh.

How proved the point ?search engine then click. If people checking the link was a concern the whole spam/phishing scamming industry would be out of a job

Exactly this. I exclusively use search when navigating to any financial website. There's a very large financial incentive to pull off a "typo" fishing domain in those cases as well as a need to regularly check for data breaches.
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