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Re: Firefox's JIT is getting significantly faster

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Post by stjohnswarts »

deadbunny wrote: post #108
Weebs wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there any way we as a community of users can help ensure Firefox remains viable in the event that Mozilla can no longer provide enough support? It seems a shame that such a loved & enjoyed project might fall wayside without significant financial backing. I would say I would love to help, but I have no domain expertise in browsers/rendering, or how I would develop enough to contribute.

Use it, and if you make websites make sure you support it just as well as Chrome.

Yeah all you can really do is use it and suggest it to people. I do this and have made a few converts (along with helping with best extensions to get without getting in their way)

Re: Firefox's JIT is getting significantly faster

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Post by gkoberger »

bigyikes wrote: post #118
gkoberger wrote: post #105

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Last summer! It's the most expensive thing I own haha

Wow, did that help business, or was it more of a vanity thing? I was thinking domains didn’t matter all that much.

I think pg sums it up the best: http://www.paulgraham.com/name.html

"The problem with not having the .com of your name is that it signals weakness. Unless you're so big that your reputation precedes you, a marginal domain suggests you're a marginal company."

I'd say there's a few major reasons: protecting the name and signaling we're a real company to larger corporations.

For us, we also host websites that allows JS/CSS/HTML, so being able to put our assets on a separate domain helps with security issues.

Re: Firefox's JIT is getting significantly faster

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Post by stjohnswarts »

winrid wrote: post #111
est31 wrote: post #12

Nice! There's still cool cpp stuff going on in Firefox. This is one example. https://searchfox.org/mozilla-central/source/js/src/jit/Warp...

I was thinking new stuff was done in Rust. I guess Gecko is CPP only?

Not true majority by far is done in c++. Easily confirmed by downloading the browser source and using a LOC analyzer to see how much code is done in which languages

Re: Firefox's JIT is getting significantly faster

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Post by [deleted] »

mumblemumble wrote: post #116
toyg wrote: post #113

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This is catastrophism. If Mozilla can make a browser that developers enjoy using as daily driver, developers will make stuff for it. If Mozilla can build bridges with framework makers, frameworks will work just fine. They just need to regain some of the focus that was squandered on too many moonshots and hazardous choices (FFOS, Pocket, etc).

I think that that may no longer be enough. The elephant in the room is the Web taking over non-Web apps. If Electron is part of your deployment surface, you can't escape Chromium. If Cordova is part of your deployment surface, it's Chromium or WebKit. A nice UI on the dev tools is nice, but I imagine most people would take an acceptable UI over a nice one if the acceptable one is how you get a development environment…

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Re: Firefox's JIT is getting significantly faster

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Post by indolering »

rattray wrote: post #65

10% faster with less memory use and simpler code / data models - nice work! Excited to see the end result. Hopefully HN users on nightly are able to try it out and give feedback.

How does this impact security? Most of the proposals I've seen for improving Firefox's security requires more memory and the blurb on the mailing list cite that they require less type information.

Re: Firefox's JIT is getting significantly faster

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Post by Dahoon »

random_dork1 wrote: post #41
HashingtheCode wrote: post #35

Firefox is a dead man walking. If you want privacy, use a FF fork called Librewolf

> Firefox is a dead man walking. Dramatic. > If you want privacy, use a FF fork called Librewolf Thanks for the tip.

>[Coming soon!] LibreWolf builds for Microsoft Windows

Oh well.

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Post by Dahoon »

Miraste wrote: post #130
yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #97

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I've literally seen people commenting that they don't use firefox because chrome seems faster. (...and also, how on earth did you get it to use that much memory? I'm sitting over 500 tabs, albeit mostly unloaded, and 6 extensions, on a system with only 6GB installed)

If you have the ram firefox will eat it, I've seen it use well over 10 before. Chromiums do the same thing, though.

BS.

Currently browsing HN, Google groups, Gitlab x2.

Extensions enabled:

Bypass paywall, Decentraleyes, Youtube enhancer, Facebook containers, Flagfox, Google container, HTTPS everywhere, Location guard, Sponsorblock and Ublock Origin

Only using a few hundred MB atm:

https://imgur.com/i6DYG69

Re: Firefox's JIT is getting significantly faster

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Post by cxr »

SubiculumCode wrote: post #25

I believe in Mozilla.and their products. as much as they need to get their admin/ceo pay down.as much as they need to adjust the new Android Firefox UI Unless there is another foundation with a browser promoting a free and open internet, my vote will always remain with them.

> Unless there is another foundation with a browser promoting a free and open internet, my vote will always remain with them.

And therein lies the problem. No matter how bad Mozcorp is at doing what mozilla.org was supposed to be about, then as long as it exists, it will always manage to be a black hole swallowing up any enthusiasm and effort that might otherwise be put to good use.

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