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Re: Boulder prohibits gatherings of any size for 18-22 year olds

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> #2, I think you are wrong about their invincibility in this case. 330 people under 25 died of covid as of August 20 [0] (most with comorbidities), out of a population of 104 million in the U.S. [1], that is 1 out of 346,000 (edit). This is not high on the list of dangers for that age group. And maybe a drunk driver really is invincible because he has a very safe car that will protect him in any accident. Does that…

A drunk driver is already knowingly drunk and driving one+ ton of metal around at lethally high speeds. Many of these young people, possibly even the vast majority of them, are not knowingly infected, but being treated as if they were all contagious and thus uniformly the equivalents of drunk drivers. Moreover, this is being based on very questionable cause and effect speculation about how much damage said young peop…

> Your analogy is just bad. Closer would be banning all drivers between a certain age rubric because possibly, maybe, some of them will get drunk and drive.

You know we already ban all drivers "between a certain age rubric"? Try to get your driver's license from age 0-15.

Re: Boulder prohibits gatherings of any size for 18-22 year olds

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Also, here's another comment you made in this article: > It’s kind of like how everyone thinks that they would have opposed the Nazis because they grew up being taught that Nazis were bad. The truth is, this experiment in mass collective delusion has made it very clear which among us would have spoken out. > The ones reporting their neighbors for having a gathering or not wearing a mask while watering their lawn woul…

Aside from the part where I didn’t say that you had a good point.

Why are you commenting as "I" in response to a comment directed at __blockcipher__?

Re: Boulder prohibits gatherings of any size for 18-22 year olds

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Why not just gather in the neighboring city?

The old saying is that Boulder is seven square miles between the mountains and reality. You can buy passports on Pearl St. to get into Boulder. It's kinda it's own little world. The next town over is Louisville, which has pretty much nothing for a 18-22 year old to do. Or Longmonth, which also has pretty much nothing to do. Denver is ~30 min away depending on traffic. https://www.google.com/maps/place/Boulder,+CO/@39…

It’s true bolder is the Berkeley of Colorado

Re: Boulder prohibits gatherings of any size for 18-22 year olds

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The measures being used seem to have less to do with public health and more to do with public control. Politicians hate to be challenged, and we don't challenge them nearly enough in America. Enough is enough. Open the schools, open the businesses, and let people govern their own behavior.

Re: Boulder prohibits gatherings of any size for 18-22 year olds

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There is yet no evidence that explicitly ties the use of a face mask to lower rates of SARS-CoV-2 transmission. A lot of the published evidence is either inconsistent, or indirect (measurement of droplets, but that doesn't take physical barriers like nose and mouth, or the viral load required to overcome the non adaptive immune system). In fact, it has been argued that non pharmacological interventions should be eval…

You're going to get downvotes like crazy from the Corona Cult. Vote in November! Keep the fanatics from taking over.

It's America's obsession with self righteous indignation. "How dare you not go along with the mob and put on your mask. What kind of horrible person are you?" Americans, of which I am one, have this mentality that if someone disagrees, they are a terrible, horrible person that must be crushed by your rightness.

Re: Boulder prohibits gatherings of any size for 18-22 year olds

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I’d guess jb775 saw a clip with a conservative lawmaker or pundit making this point. It’s been floating around the news lately. Take a look at the recent argument between Sen. Rand Paul and Dr. Fauci[0]. Essentially republicans are trying to push this idea that the number of infections and deaths from COVID-19 are inevitable and any government intervention can only impact the timing. In other words the area under the…

> They don’t want people thinking that if action was taken by the U.S. gov sooner (Feb instead of Apr).. Why do you single out "conservatives" when Democratic politicians were telling people during the Chinese Lunar New Year there was nothing to worry about? This wasn't a partisan blunder.

Do as they say, not as they do.

Re: Boulder prohibits gatherings of any size for 18-22 year olds

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This is an arbitrary distinction to compare Sweden to Norway(who also had no mask mandate), cherry picked to fit your narrative. Sweden had deaths on par with the average of all of European countries less than Italy, Spain, the UK, etc.

Take in mind that the family structure is different in South and North Europe. Southern Europe homes are often multigenerational. Having gransons and grandpas living together increases the risk. Many granpas live alone in Swedden. Their results would be even worse if we remove this structural difference. If we can't compare Swedden With Norway, maybe you would prefer Denmark? 645 danish killed versus 5875 Sweddish. E…

Wheres your evidence that Italy has more multigenerational households than Sweden? Do you have a citation? That's scientifically unsubstantiated and almost like you made it up on the spot based on anecdotal information.

Also, you're cherry picking again to suit your narrative. Sweden is part of Europe and should be compared as such.

It's disingenuous to keep promoting this demon-ization of Sweden narrative with unsubstantiated, and cherry picked comments.

Sweden did the right thing. Other countries did not. It's that simple.

Re: Boulder prohibits gatherings of any size for 18-22 year olds

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The Corona Cult is going to baselessly discredit your ideas which are valid and accurate because they have no logical response. Please vote in November! Keep the fanatics from committing additional human rights violations!

He is just claiming no evidence and cherry picking data. I can just as easily point to other countries that have limited their Covid cases to single digits. Do we really need a controlled experiment to prove to you that wearing masks limit the spread of an airborne virus? That is common sense.

Is putting a plague vector directly on your face with a virus that stays on surfaces for days common sense?

Is putting a device on your face that requires constantly interacting your hands near your respiratory tract common sense?

Everything that follows a cult's narrative is common sense, everything that disagrees with a cults narrative is immediately discarded.

Be aware of your biases.

Re: Boulder prohibits gatherings of any size for 18-22 year olds

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You're going to get downvotes like crazy from the Corona Cult. Vote in November! Keep the fanatics from taking over.

It's America's obsession with self righteous indignation. "How dare you not go along with the mob and put on your mask. What kind of horrible person are you?" Americans, of which I am one, have this mentality that if someone disagrees, they are a terrible, horrible person that must be crushed by your rightness.

Yep. Completely agree. There's very little middle ground anymore. It's just pure righteous indignation from all sides.

Trump bad, guns good, abortion good, q anon good...and on and on.

I personally blame the media, where most people get their information, for presenting things in an extremely one sided non-nuanced manner, no matter, what party or group you hail from.

It makes it impossible to empathize with the other side or see other ideas if it's presented already by the media as unquestionable ideas.

However, it's also on the population for being intellectually lazy and not validating or verifying what they see on the news media.

Re: Boulder prohibits gatherings of any size for 18-22 year olds

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Take in mind that the family structure is different in South and North Europe. Southern Europe homes are often multigenerational. Having gransons and grandpas living together increases the risk. Many granpas live alone in Swedden. Their results would be even worse if we remove this structural difference. If we can't compare Swedden With Norway, maybe you would prefer Denmark? 645 danish killed versus 5875 Sweddish. E…

Wheres your evidence that Italy has more multigenerational households than Sweden? Do you have a citation? That's scientifically unsubstantiated and almost like you made it up on the spot based on anecdotal information. Also, you're cherry picking again to suit your narrative. Sweden is part of Europe and should be compared as such. It's disingenuous to keep promoting this demon-ization of Sweden narrative with unsub…

You can find easily those data in Eurostat of course, that is the official channel for those things in EU.

Mean age of youngsters leaving parental home to live in their own home. Data from 2019:

- Italy: 30.1 Years old.

- European Union: 26.2 Years old

- Swedden: 17.8 Years old.

So... Yes, definitely I would say that they are very different societies. This, most probably, saved Swedden several deaths.

> Sweden is part of Europe and should be compared as such.

For your information, Czechia is an European country, same as Denmark

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