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Windows XP source code has leaked

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Re: Windows XP source code has leaked

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Post by _abox »

hnlmorg wrote: post #240
pizza234 wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I personally tried to use Windows XP (for my Windows systems, which is mostly VMs nowadays) for as long as I could. First, it was the first solid (in relative terms) consumer operating system from MS. Second, it was lightweight (in relative terms) in terms of UX and, somewhat consequently, engineering. With Windows Vista (but in particular, Windows 8), MS started to add complexity on every layer. Nowadays, I'm really…

XP, when it was first released, was a more resource hungry and uglier version of Windows 2000. Win 2000 was amazing when it was released. Games (albeit not DOS ones) worked well, it was stable and really your only other options were worse (Mac OS 9 was less stable than Win 98, ME was a dumpster fire, Linux wasn't quite ready for the desktop and BeOS was awesome but barely supported). Then when XP was released, it had…

Don't forget that a lot of people compare XP not to Windows 2000 but Windows ME which was probably the worst Windows version ever :)

Re: Windows XP source code has leaked

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Post by zamalek »

unnouinceput wrote: post #148
zamalek wrote: post #6

Is this all of it, or just portions like many of the other leaks?

Get it, try to build it, see if you can make your own installer ISO and test it in a virtual machine. Ain't rocket science, just time and if you have it (which I don't) knock yourself out.

And seeding it is highly illegal and unethical.

Re: Windows XP source code has leaked

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Post by prophesi »

LargoLasskhyfv wrote: post #89
SquareWheel wrote: post #67

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>And also, Microsoft claims to love open source so then I guess they'll love how open this source code is now that it's passed around on BitTorrent. One can love open-source and still be against license violations. What a warped world view.

License is violation!

Yeah, if it were a violation of an _open source_ license, then the parent comment would make more sense.

Microsoft's love for open source is surface level; they love how easy it is to embrace, extend, and extinguish.

Re: Windows XP source code has leaked

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Post by ksk »

dx034 wrote: post #95
dotancohen wrote: post #92

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> did not expect proprietary operating > systems to be actively working against you. What did I miss? I've last used Windows in 2005, I'm pretty sure that was XP Service Pack 2. What does it do now to actively work against you?

Windows 10 has become much less open for non enterprise customers. It't incredibly hard to change settings or disable features such as Onedrive, Cortana, and others.

Agreed. I think MS has decided (for better or for worse) that the average user is not a good system admin, and/or a consumer OS shouldn't require one. Our IT maintains W10 pretty well. I have a test box in my office and I regularly get months of uptime without any nags of updates and other nonsense. I work in biotech and you don't want your cleanroom computers rebooting in the middle of an expensive batch. =)

Re: Windows XP source code has leaked

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Post by ksk »

AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #298
reflectiv wrote: post #291

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And if it were left open ended at the request of people like you...we'd still have compromised systems out there spread amongst normal people as well as within infrastructure and other more critical pieces of hardware. People cannot be trusted to upgrade. It REALLY IS good to force people to upgrade.

> People cannot be trusted to upgrade. It REALLY IS good to force people to upgrade. The very idea that users should be at the mercy of their computers instead of the other way around is contrary to the concept of personal computing. People like you are why I hate IT these days. You seem to think that because you have some specialized knowledge about computers that you're smarter than everyone who doesn't. You're tot…

I fully understand the frustration after seeing people having their computers reboot in the middle of presentations and other important events. That's why they made multiple products. Consumer OS = you don't want to be the sysadmin of the computer. Enterprise/LTSB OS = do what you want.

Re: Windows XP source code has leaked

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Post by ksk »

saagarjha wrote: post #109
Hackbraten wrote: post #81

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Unpopular opinion but: telemetrics help developers prioritize stuff and triage bugs. From a user’s point of view, isn’t that a substantial benefit?

Telemetrics are frequently inaccurate, sometimes to the point they paint a picture are interpreted in a a way that’s the opposite of reality. Windows telemetry in particular is not nice because it’s not really possible to turn off on the lower editions and it also does not seem to translate to benefits–especially as around the time of its inclusion word got out that Microsoft was cutting a large portion of their QA t…

What are you basing this on? Are you talking about Windows or just random telemetry?

Re: Windows XP source code has leaked

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Post by ksk »

krageon wrote: post #161
Hackbraten wrote: post #81

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Unpopular opinion but: telemetrics help developers prioritize stuff and triage bugs. From a user’s point of view, isn’t that a substantial benefit?

Very good software was written before people that think like you were taken seriously. Clearly it is not necessary.

Today's software is vastly better in UX than software in the 90s and 00. Certainly I don't attribute all of that to telemetry, but your opposite view is incorrect.

Re: Windows XP source code has leaked

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Post by ksk »

sdfqasdghj wrote: post #83
rblatz wrote: post #77

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I go months without needing to reboot windows, and have for over a decade. Typically if I need to reboot it’s due to an update or software that requires a reboot to install.

How? When I last used Windows it forced a reboot to do updates once a month. If I let it pick the time it was often a bad time.

Unfortunately, this is not possible on their consumer OS branch (unless you hack the system, but I have found that it often makes the OS unstable because its in an unsupported system state). For me, our IT manages the systems. They get to decide when the systems update. I have a test box that regularly sees months of uptime.

https://i.imgur.com/XN2Hjia.png

Re: Windows XP source code has leaked

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Post by WorldPeas »

spdionis wrote: post #138
asveikau wrote: post #53

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Windows 10 is a resource hog and contains adware. macOS ... Is special. Some of the most notable changes in the last few years have been to try to restrict what an app can do.

So you're telling me that macOS is more performant than Windows 10? Have you used both? Do you not feel the delay in every mouse click you do in macOS that is so maddening after coming from Windows? Both the UI lag and general performance in macOS is just a sad story. My windows machine runs 24/7 for months without needing a restart. I am forced to restart macOS weekly, usually because of system issues.

I used macos, I was forced to restart and update. I used windows, I was forced to restart and update. I use kubuntu now, and I haven't turned my computer off(unless you count sleep state) in a few weeks, sometimes i've gone months. Both operating systems feel slow to me now that I've used linux. I was apprehensive to use it at first, and feel kinda guilty evangelizing it, but if you have these problems, I think this is your solution.

Re: Windows XP source code has leaked

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Post by eemil »

tamrix wrote: post #8
enjoyyourlife wrote: post #2

https://twitter.com/RoninDey/status/1309275918943301636 https://anonfiles.com/Ffn8u2Yaoa/Microsoft_leaked_source_cod...

This is still illegal to obtain, right? I'm not sure if it's wise to post the link as it may encourage others to download it and might be against the ToS on hackernews.

In what jurisdiction?
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