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Re: Luna – Cloud gaming service

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Post by gpderetta »

freehunter wrote: post #188
CGamesPlay wrote: post #178

I'm not sure I would get back on one of these. I used OnLive back in the day, but now I can't play those games any more. It was a subscription with lock-in, and now that it's out of business I can't even choose to be locked in. Now, I have recently started playing on GeForce NOW, nVidia's offering. However there it's much closer to an EC2 model: I'm renting a machine, and I log into my Steam profile and play games th…

I have tons of PC games I "own" but can't play anymore. One of my favorite tycoon games was Sid Meier's Railroads, but it can't run stable on any machine with more than 4GB of RAM. Sure I could spin up a Windows XP VM but that's not a reasonable solution in any way. Same thing with Full Spectrum Warrior, just doesn't run on modern OSes. I can play Unreal Tournament 2003 or older Call of Duty games or... if I can find…

Give a try to Wine/Proton; often they have better compatibility with older games than Windows itself.

Re: Luna – Cloud gaming service

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Post by Kelteseth »

orbifold wrote: post #232
legohead wrote: post #219

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm an avid cloud gamer. I used GeForce NOW at first, but it had limited game selection. I use Shadow now and it is much better. I have full control over the PC/VM, and install whatever I want from anywhere. I'm also super impressed with the latency - I can play multiplayer competitive games no problem. I'm on a Mac so cloud gaming makes sense for me. I was going to build a PC but the cost was too high. Much cheaper…

I can highly recommend Shadow aswell, a friend of mine uses it and for online multiplayer it is a really nice option. It I didn’t own a decent PC I probably would choose that to play my Steam games.

Does it have a time limitation? I mean if this has the power of a Nvidia 1080 for 13€/month one could surely use this as a blender renderfarm 24/7...

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Post by walrus01 »

mcintyre1994 wrote: post #253

> Play on PC, Mac, Fire TV and web apps for iPhone and iPad Is an equivalent service already available on their own Fire tablet hardware? That seems like a weird omission.

the majority of fire tablets use bottom of the barrel CPU/GPU combos that wouldn't be capable of streaming low-latency (sub-40ms) 1080p in a truly smooth way.

when your whole BOM for building a tablet is probably $40 in parts, it doesn't go very far towards much CPU heavy lifting.

Re: Luna – Cloud gaming service

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Post by adonese »

Kelteseth wrote: post #252
orbifold wrote: post #232

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can highly recommend Shadow aswell, a friend of mine uses it and for online multiplayer it is a really nice option. It I didn’t own a decent PC I probably would choose that to play my Steam games.

Does it have a time limitation? I mean if this has the power of a Nvidia 1080 for 13€/month one could surely use this as a blender renderfarm 24/7...

I was actually thinking about the same with respect to training machine learning models; but I think they might have something in terms and conditions prohibiting that

Re: Luna – Cloud gaming service

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Post by mcintyre1994 »

walrus01 wrote: post #254
mcintyre1994 wrote: post #253

> Play on PC, Mac, Fire TV and web apps for iPhone and iPad Is an equivalent service already available on their own Fire tablet hardware? That seems like a weird omission.

the majority of fire tablets use bottom of the barrel CPU/GPU combos that wouldn't be capable of streaming low-latency (sub-40ms) 1080p in a truly smooth way. when your whole BOM for building a tablet is probably $40 in parts, it doesn't go very far towards much CPU heavy lifting.

That makes sense actually, I was comparing to the Fire Sticks which are cheaper than the tablets but I guess the sticks can dedicate a lot more of the hardware budget to those internals.

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Post by wjdp »

MikusR wrote: post #79
boardwaalk wrote: post #46

The Venn diagram for target audience and situational use cases of these services has always seemed very small to me. At least the subscription model and game selection seems better than Stadia. edit: Also, it seems to me like the target audience is for the same sort (and I’m not trying to denigrate) that watch movies on their TV with internal speakers or can’t fathom why you’d pay more than 30 bucks for headphones or…

Hawe you actually tried Stadia or Geforce Now?

Just tried Geforce now as I spotted they had a free offering that links to my Steam library.

Booted up "Just Cause 3" (first one I spotted that was supported and I had). The first bit of the game has you on top of a plane shooting at ground targets.

I'm on a 40Mb/s connection with 22ms of ping to 8.8.8.8. All wired ethernet, no wifi.

The latency was awful, felt like ~1s from mouse move to action. I could not aim at the targets at all.

0/10 unplayable ;)

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Post by dylz »

adonese wrote: post #255
Kelteseth wrote: post #252

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does it have a time limitation? I mean if this has the power of a Nvidia 1080 for 13€/month one could surely use this as a blender renderfarm 24/7...

I was actually thinking about the same with respect to training machine learning models; but I think they might have something in terms and conditions prohibiting that

Auto shutdown after 15-30 min of inactivity, keepalive stuff is against tos and permbannable

Must keep clicking/typing into it

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Post by ZephyrBlu »

Moru wrote: post #250
bluescrn wrote: post #236

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Even locally, on a console, you’ll not get latency (input to visible response on screen) down to 25ms these days. Some LCD TVs alone can add 40-60ms of latency, and software can add another couple of frames. Often 30hz frames, too... Which kind of sucks if you grew up on CRTs and arcade games that often managed much lower latency. But I guess it means that game streaming really could offer a console-like experience i…

I believe that's the joke. I wish latency was getting better but every new thing that comes along moves the acceptance further away. Many don't even notice 500 ms delay from click to something actually happening. On my Atari I often had the feeling something started happening before the mouse button was all the way down.

I can't believe that people wouldn't notice 500ms of latency when playing a game. Even 150-200ms is very noticeable.

Re: Luna – Cloud gaming service

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Post by imtringued »

chptung wrote: post #162
_23sd wrote: post #146

The price looks really good compared to Stadia, and being able to use a dirt cheap Fire Stick that many already have instead of a $100 hardware investment is a huge plus. To really drive adoption they could cut the price of the controller and make some games available for Prime members. That said, I think there's a tendency to pooh-pooh the "gamer" concerns about streaming far too much in the rush to declare that the…

Worth mentioning that one of the most popular games on twitch right now is Among Us which basically has SNES graphics

When my GPU died I still could play most 3d games at 720p on my iGPU. I'm sure you could play 70% of all games ever made directly on a cheap AMD APU system that would cost $300 at most.
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