Firefox usage is down despite Mozilla's top exec pay going up

Post by PopsiclePete » Wed, Sep 23, 2020, 7:49 PM UTC

roenxi wrote: post #161

Jonnax wrote: post #13

There's a quote from the CEO saying that they looked at the market and felt like they were being underpaid. And they can't reduce their salary now because it'd be unfair on their families. Firefox has a problem. It gets most of its revenue from Google. They need a different revenue stream but their ideas haven't worked. Their executives are clearly failures. But with such high pay, they're cashing out. Buying themsel…

That chart shows a pretty beautiful 10 year trend. Yep, they are on a sinking ship. 'Failures' on the other hand - that is a loaded word. They are failures, they have failed at making Firefox popular. But what needed to happen to build an alternative world where they succeeded? The browsers that succeeded were Chrome and Safari - browsers sponsored by the owners of the two major platforms for accessing the internet,…

Post by [deleted] » Wed, Sep 23, 2020, 7:50 PM UTC

cultus wrote: post #844

BickNowstrom wrote: post #800

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What disadvantage do you see from being a LGBT minority in tech? For instance, what disadvantage do bisexuals suffer vs. straight people? The disadvantage of having a minority political view is clear to me: You better hope someone does not pull it out of the closet for you, or you're going to get cancelled for undesirable diversity of thought. The disadvantage of having a minority sexual preference is not clear to me…

There's plenty of research on the matter that you can look up at your leisure. Of course, you are obviously a bigot and not arguing in good faith. You do, however, prove my point.

Post by FireBeyond » Wed, Sep 23, 2020, 7:54 PM UTC

sangnoir wrote: post #286

jacquesm wrote: post #243

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> t wasn't long ago that comments were shouting that this was the absolute most qualified person to lead Mozilla when others were questioning having a lawyer lead a tech company. I don't think you'll be able to attribute that quote to me. Eich fucked up, and should have realized that you can't be leading a flagship of diversity on the one hand and be a bigot on the other. But he resigned (he wasn't forced out, though…

> I don't think you'll be able to attribute that quote to me. Eich fucked up, and should have realized that you can't be leading a flagship of diversity on the one hand and be a bigot on the other. I have a problem with characterizing Brendan Eich as a bigot for donating to a non-fringe political group. IIRC, the proposition campaign he donated to had close to a 50/50 split in support for/against. Eich's ouster cryst…

Post by [deleted] » Wed, Sep 23, 2020, 7:54 PM UTC

vex wrote: post #464

joelthelion wrote: post #432

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What's wrong with it?

With chrome flow tab ui I can rapidly scroll through full width page previews, and I can initiate this by swiping from the top down. In Firefox the tab previews are so small as to be almost useless, and I have to press a button.

Post by ab_testing » Wed, Sep 23, 2020, 7:57 PM UTC

patrickaljord wrote: post #893

ab_testing wrote: post #888

I have a contrarian view that as a private company Firefox has a freedom to do whatever with the money as they see fit . Just because they are a non profit, does not mean that they need to listen to recommendations on how to best run their company. They know that they would be dead in the water if not for google’s money. So their loyalty lies in keeping google happy and their money flowing . If I was on the board of…

Google money is only guaranteed in so far as Firefox keeps its market share. Do you think Google will still be sending them money once their market share is close to 0%? Keeping Google money flowing should be balanced with growing their market share, if only to keep Google money from flowing. Unfortunately, keeping Google happy is orthogonal to growing their market share as what most Firefox users want is basically B…