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Post by donavanm » Mon, Sep 21, 2020, 12:07 PM UTC

fowl2 wrote: post #39

chinathrow wrote: post #35

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I honestly don't understand the OZ approach as of today. We have immediate family there (sister in law) and are unable to visit. Heck we even would go to quarantine for 14 days in order to see them afterwards for a couple of weeks and/or some longer travels. The current situation where ~25'000 Australians are still unable to get back home makes no sense to me. Even leaving Australia for personal travel is not really…

They've determined that the risk of quarantine scales with the quantity of people going through it. Given the entirety of the current outbreak has been traced back to quarantine failures, this is somewhat understandable.

Post by chrisseaton » Mon, Sep 21, 2020, 12:18 PM UTC

chinathrow wrote: post #35

octodog wrote: post #32

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No, it wouldn't. The government has placed a (mostly) hard limit of 3000 people per week entering per day. An arrival tax might raise revenue but it doesn't guaranteed the policy goal - 3000 people a week. Now, why the Federal Government isn't using its powers to set up quarantine centres on Christmas Island and other appropriate locations is a better question to be asking. They were pretty happy to do it at the begi…

I honestly don't understand the OZ approach as of today. We have immediate family there (sister in law) and are unable to visit. Heck we even would go to quarantine for 14 days in order to see them afterwards for a couple of weeks and/or some longer travels. The current situation where ~25'000 Australians are still unable to get back home makes no sense to me. Even leaving Australia for personal travel is not really…

Post by piceas » Mon, Sep 21, 2020, 12:52 PM UTC

donavanm wrote: post #41

fowl2 wrote: post #39

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They've determined that the risk of quarantine scales with the quantity of people going through it. Given the entirety of the current outbreak has been traced back to quarantine failures, this is somewhat understandable.

Im in Sydney. During the peak in Q1-Q2 ~60% of infections were travelers arriving from overseas. We're currently at 3-10 infections per day, with about 50-75% of those continuing to be overseas travelers. As you noted both quarantine and testing is imperfect. I have no desire to open the doors and have a repeat of Iceland or Victoria writ large. Yes, I'm disappointed at not seeing overseas friends and family for (at…

Post by chrisseaton » Mon, Sep 21, 2020, 1:03 PM UTC

cwhiz wrote: post #44

chrisseaton wrote: post #43

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> We have immediate family there (sister in law) and are unable to visit. Visiting people shouldn't be anyone's priority, right now! Of course they're denying such an optional activity.

What a dystopia. And you seem to actively want it. Disturbing.

Post by [deleted] » Mon, Sep 21, 2020, 1:09 PM UTC

cwhiz wrote: post #44

chrisseaton wrote: post #43

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> We have immediate family there (sister in law) and are unable to visit. Visiting people shouldn't be anyone's priority, right now! Of course they're denying such an optional activity.

What a dystopia. And you seem to actively want it. Disturbing.