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Dream Vendor "Canna_Bars" Sentenced to Prison

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Re: Dream Vendor "Canna_Bars" Sentenced to Prison

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Post by amanaplanacanal »

sneak wrote: post #21
jmnicolas wrote: post #17

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> There's no victim. Literally nobody was harmed here. The IRS doesn't agree.

While the US spends the incredible quantities of tax money it does[1] waging neverending imperialistic war, there is a strong argument to be made that not giving the IRS money is the "least harm" option among the set of ("pay the IRS", "don't pay the IRS"). [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_... (Spoiler alert: the US spends more on its military, per capita, than any country in the world…

Money taken by the IRS and money spent by Congress have almost no relationship. “Starve the beast” doesn’t work.

It has had the effect of adding trillions to the debt we are passing on to our children and grandchildren though. Good job boomers!

And I say that as a boomer myself.

Re: Dream Vendor "Canna_Bars" Sentenced to Prison

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Post by [deleted] »

tchaffee wrote: post #63
TheAdamAndChe wrote: post #40

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I personally want drug-dealing gun-wielding ex-felons to be put in prison. Plus he only got 5 years, which isn't a long sentence in the US.

Then you should waste your own personal money on it. It has made the problem worse. The illegal drug trade to the US is now almost as big as big oil. It's an industry in the hundreds of $ billions. This type of thinking has created millions of addicts in the USA along with helping make many very rich and powerful criminals globally.

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Re: Dream Vendor "Canna_Bars" Sentenced to Prison

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Post by zapdrive »

mschwaig wrote: post #103
zapdrive wrote: post #91

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My understanding from skimming the article is, they only identified the suspect from fingerprints. After identification they did surveillance and gathered additional evidence.

> The FDL [HSI Forensic Document Laboratory] returned the request after conducting a comparative analysis of the friction ridge detail of the fingerprints from the Imgur album and the fingerprint samples taken after police had arrested Porras for a different crime. The fingerprints in the Imgur album matched the prints they already had on file for Porras. It doesn't sound like that to me, but maybe I am misunderstand…

It doesn't say they arrested him immediately after the match. If you read the article they say they placed multiple orders and would surveill him after every order. That's how they gathered evidence.

Re: Dream Vendor "Canna_Bars" Sentenced to Prison

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Post by pitay »

leadingthenet wrote: post #69
jonquest wrote: post #60

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I challenge to do a google image search for faces of meth and come back and say that again with a straight face. That stuff is a poison that destroys both mind and body. If you think self control is enough to keep that stuff from rotting your face, making your hair fall out and keep yourself from going crazy you are foolish. Comparing it to ADHD medications is plain and simple stupid. If you think meth is the drug yo…

Stop it with the hyperbole, as you clearly have no clue what you’re talking about. Methamphetamine is routinely prescribed for the treatment ADHD (also obesity and narcolepsy, amongst other off-label uses), and is sold under the brand name of Desoxyn (in the US). Meth IS medication! On that note, maybe don’t believe everything you read about drugs online.

I may need to clear up a misconception of mine, so here goes.

Isn't it Dexamphetamine that is the routine treatment for ADHD? As far as I understood, methamphetamine has much stronger effects than dexamphetamine, also meth been prone to cause more adverse effects and have more neurotoxicity than the dex counterpart?

Maybe I'm completely off base here.

Re: Dream Vendor "Canna_Bars" Sentenced to Prison

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Post by aaomidi »

jokethrowaway wrote: post #75
aaomidi wrote: post #37

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Civil disobedience is the strongest way of bringing change. We've used it as a tactic for decades and it's been the only reliable force for change. There is no reason for your representative to listen to you in America unless you throw a wrench in the gears.

Good luck getting generation smartphone to do something. Like BLM protests proved, you will just get ex-felons robbing honest people and burning down buildings.

Thanks for your contribution.

Just in case you don't know, there have been about 110 nights of continual protests in nearly every metro area in the US.

You may want to ask yourself why you're not joining in with them to influence the movement instead of complaining about it here.

Re: Dream Vendor "Canna_Bars" Sentenced to Prison

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Post by antihero »

draugadrotten wrote: post #66
antihero wrote: post #2

What a colossal waste of time. Prosecuting someone for selling online something that is illegal in a lot of states. Mindblowing how stupid the war on drugs is.

You are glossing over the illegal firearms. Would it really be better to wait for the murder.

The firearms were legal and licensed, however due to the drugs, they became illegal.

Re: Dream Vendor "Canna_Bars" Sentenced to Prison

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Post by hoorayimhelping »

pmachinery wrote: post #52
blunte wrote: post #14

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There is considerable information back from the 80s to suggest that the US war on drugs was actually a system to enable racial discrimination. Then some years later, the ear on drugs became associated with the growth of the private prison industry and it's lobbyists. Indeed I provide no references here because it is quite an involved topic and difficult to prove given the publicly available information.

The motivation for fictitious wars against bogeymen is to empower and bankroll law enforcement while diminishing the civil rights of citizens. Like the war on terror, the decades long war on drugs has been a roaring success.

>The motivation for fictitious wars against bogeymen is to empower and bankroll law enforcement while diminishing the civil rights of citizens.

Thank you. This trend where people recast everything in the 20th century to be racially motivated (but can't provide any proof, because it's like complicated) is exhausting.

Re: Dream Vendor "Canna_Bars" Sentenced to Prison

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Post by animationwill »

znpy wrote: post #108
blunte wrote: post #14

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There is considerable information back from the 80s to suggest that the US war on drugs was actually a system to enable racial discrimination. Then some years later, the ear on drugs became associated with the growth of the private prison industry and it's lobbyists. Indeed I provide no references here because it is quite an involved topic and difficult to prove given the publicly available information.

That's not "considerable information", that's a known fact. Adam Conove made a whole episode in his show, "Adam ruins everything", about the true reasons why weed is illegal. Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXPOw2unxy0 Spoiler: it's about giving the government of the US a tool to discriminate black people and mexicans.

I'll have to watch Adam's episode, but I watched a Netflix documentary five years ago (don't recall the name) that presented the argument that it was primarily the (cotton?) industry that lobbied to classify weed as illegal, because they wanted to destroy the hemp industry (and succeeded) as they were producing clothing.

So it sounds like original bad intent (destroy competition) led to it being abused for further bad intent (racism).

Re: Dream Vendor "Canna_Bars" Sentenced to Prison

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Post by tchaffee »

TheAdamAndChe wrote: post #120
tchaffee wrote: post #117

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> Where one person then decides to alter their own brain chemistry

There are large social impacts to lots of individuals choosing to alter their brain chemistry, just as there would be large impacts from distributing explosives. Individuals don't live in a vacuum.

Well yes there are. We have seen that with both alcohol and sugar. And with alcohol we have seen how horribly wrong it goes when you try to treat a medical problem - addiction - by using the legal system. It doesn't work.
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