Dream Vendor "Canna_Bars" Sentenced to Prison

Post by gbrown » Sun, Sep 20, 2020, 12:21 PM UTC

sneak wrote: post #11

antihero wrote: post #2

What a colossal waste of time. Prosecuting someone for selling online something that is illegal in a lot of states. Mindblowing how stupid the war on drugs is.

There's no victim. Literally nobody was harmed here. "Penalties against possession of a drug should not be more damaging to an individual than the use of the drug itself; and where they are, they should be changed." - Jimmy Carter, 39th President of the United States

Post by tchaffee » Sun, Sep 20, 2020, 12:23 PM UTC

TheAdamAndChe wrote: post #40

sneak wrote: post #9

The amount of resources that the US federal government will use to pursue ridiculously long sentences (that frequently involve torture[1]) against people who did not victimize a single person is absolutely insane to me. The prohibition on the possession and sale of drugs must come to an end, and weapons charges should never, ever be brought against anyone who didn't use weapons to commit a crime or otherwise perpetra…

I personally want drug-dealing gun-wielding ex-felons to be put in prison. Plus he only got 5 years, which isn't a long sentence in the US.

Post by johnwheeler » Sun, Sep 20, 2020, 12:24 PM UTC

tchaffee wrote: post #51

dTal wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. We live in a society. If I'm expected to help pick up the pieces when you self-destruct, it's absolutely my business.

Then so is your diet and exercise regime my business. I also want to control who you spend time with (for your mental health) and what you consume for entertainment - there will be limits on what you can read and watch and how much. Alcohol is of course no longer ever an option, and many injury prone sports are also forbidden. At any point we predict you might commit a crime, we will jail you first to reduce the cost…

Post by lotsofpulp » Sun, Sep 20, 2020, 12:25 PM UTC

dTal wrote: post #53

derbOac wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except that criminalization doesn't help anyone pick up the pieces, at least as criminalization goes in the us today. There's also lots of ways to self destruct that aren't criminalized.

You are arguing against a position I did not take. My sole point is that hyper-permissive individualistic libertarianism is inappropriate in a cohesive society. Your health, your success, even your happiness; all affect me. We all depend on each other. As such, it's simply not correct to say "it's my business what I put in my body". "No man is an island entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part…

Post by leadingthenet » Sun, Sep 20, 2020, 12:28 PM UTC

jonquest wrote: post #60

bunfunton wrote: post #42

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Meth isn’t life destroying poison sorry to inform you. I take 10mg for ADHD a day and it’s saved my life when all other alternatives have failed. I would argue the bad cases you’ve seen are from people with no self control. Why should the government be able to tell you what you can and cannot put into your own body? Better, let people do what they want as long as they don’t hurt anybody else and educate them.

I challenge to do a google image search for faces of meth and come back and say that again with a straight face. That stuff is a poison that destroys both mind and body. If you think self control is enough to keep that stuff from rotting your face, making your hair fall out and keep yourself from going crazy you are foolish. Comparing it to ADHD medications is plain and simple stupid. If you think meth is the drug yo…