Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died • Hacker News Board

Re: Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died

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Post by p1necone » Sat, Sep 19, 2020, 6:01 AM UTC

refurb wrote: post #369

loceng wrote: post #252

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Canada's looking fairly decent at the moment, however similar threats and pressure from global bad actors to deal with including in political arena.

As a Canadian, it’s not that different. We just had our Finance Minister quit because he was taking money from a non-profit that gets most of it’s money from the Federal gov’t. Oh and his daughter got a cushy job there too. Completely based on merit no doubt. Trudeau says “oh we’re sorry about that”. And that’s it. No harm no foul.

He had to quit when he was found out. Compared to the USA that's massively different.

Re: Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died

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Post by cm2187 » Sat, Sep 19, 2020, 6:13 AM UTC

notafraudster wrote: post #156

alex_young wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There would seem to be precedent for this now. Justice Antonin Scalia died in February of 2016, a replacement was nominated in March of 2016, and because Scalia's seat had become vacant during an election year, the Senate would not even consider a nomination from the president [0]. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merrick_Garland_Supreme_Court_...

McConnell immediately clarified his position was "the Senate shouldn't consider a nomination in an election year if it's controlled by my party and the president isn't in my party" -- no kidding, this was his actual clarification.

I don't know that in the current political climate, the democrats would extend the same courtesy if it happened under their control of the Senate and White House.

Re: Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died

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Post by pnw_hazor » Sat, Sep 19, 2020, 6:31 AM UTC

nine_k wrote: post #373

op03 wrote: post #188

Remove the Publicly visible Like Count and those kind of conversations and connections are easy. The Like count makes people defensive or aggressive especially when they are called out in public leading to never ending reaction and counter reaction cycles. Without that dumb random signal interfering in conversations all kinds of strange connections are possible. I see it at work meetings between highly competitive pe…

I like how Slashdot handles it. Posts and comments do have counts, but the range is reasonably narrow, from -2 to +5. This allows for modding down noise, and modding up the signal, but this excludes the comparative phallometry typical for FB and twitter threads with hundreds and thousands on upvote counters.

And not everyone can vote. As a casual but everyday user, I was issued mod points one time in over 20 years. (Though lately I rarely read or comment there anymore.)

Re: Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died

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Post by chipotle_coyote » Sat, Sep 19, 2020, 6:39 AM UTC

blisseyGo wrote: post #842

jandrese wrote: post #153

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If you think McConnell has a shred of honor or cares one whiff about not being a hypocrite I have a bridge to sell you.

His point was that the WH and Senate shouldn't contemplate a SCOTUS nominee in an election year if they are controlled by opposite parties. Not hypocritical as that's not the case this time.

That's the way he's reframing the point now. There was no mention from 2016 that I can find where he mentioned anything about opposite parties: his argument was entirely "it's too close to the election and the next president should be the one who gets to appoint the next Justice."

Re: Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died

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Post by nathanvanfleet » Sat, Sep 19, 2020, 6:40 AM UTC

stickyricky wrote: post #37

I think reading about Ruth and Antonin Scalia's friendship was the most wholesome political reading I've ever done. Hearing people divided in opinion, but not bitterly so, working together to figure out the best framework to construct American society from was inspirational. I hope the two halves of the political world can become friends in the way they were. Rest in peace Ruth. I hope if there's an after you and Ant…

It's so weird to see what inspires centrists.

Re: Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died

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Post by cm2187 » Sat, Sep 19, 2020, 6:42 AM UTC

jandrese wrote: post #153

alex_young wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There would seem to be precedent for this now. Justice Antonin Scalia died in February of 2016, a replacement was nominated in March of 2016, and because Scalia's seat had become vacant during an election year, the Senate would not even consider a nomination from the president [0]. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merrick_Garland_Supreme_Court_...

If you think McConnell has a shred of honor or cares one whiff about not being a hypocrite I have a bridge to sell you.

If you think McConnell has a monopoly on hypocrisy I have a bridge to sell you as well. McConnell took both sides of the argument (delay when convenient, expedite when convenient), the democrats opposed him on both occasions. If this was a moral discussion, then both parties are equally guilty of hypocrisy.

Now if you think that political appointments are a moral matter rather than a balance of power within the constitution matter, it's not a bridge that I have to sell you, it's a planet.

Re: Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died

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Post by jimbob45 » Sat, Sep 19, 2020, 6:56 AM UTC

ed25519FUUU wrote: post #730

adzm wrote: post #26

> According to her granddaughter Clara Spera, Ginsburg said, “My most fervent wish is that I will not be replaced until a new president is installed.” https://twitter.com/briantylercohen/status/13071014175225610...

Can you imagine a 4-4 Supreme Court deadlock in a Bush v Gore type situation?

In all the reading I’ve done on that case, it really seems like the biggest mistake the SCOTUS made was accepting the case in the first place.

Re: Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Sep 19, 2020, 6:57 AM UTC

stickyricky wrote: post #37

I think reading about Ruth and Antonin Scalia's friendship was the most wholesome political reading I've ever done. Hearing people divided in opinion, but not bitterly so, working together to figure out the best framework to construct American society from was inspirational. I hope the two halves of the political world can become friends in the way they were. Rest in peace Ruth. I hope if there's an after you and Ant…

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Re: Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died

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Post by Oricle » Sat, Sep 19, 2020, 6:57 AM UTC

Oh fuck off, I can tell by her name she is a filthy jew pushing anti family, anti Christian, anti man etc etc agendas. Turkish jew, not isralites either!

And I dont even know who this person is! All from reading 1 sentence about her!

Prove me wrong? Go on!

Time for people wake up to theis over 2000 year old war!

Re: Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died

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Post by FireBeyond » Sat, Sep 19, 2020, 6:57 AM UTC

stjohnswarts wrote: post #632

bonzini wrote: post #8

Of course a president should not appoint a judge on the last few months of his term, should he?

Trump most likely has had plans for this for months and knows who he's going to pick, expect a choice by the end of next week and confirmation within a month. They don't have much time to get a new person in there so they've had a plan for this for months, if not years.

If only he had similar plans for healthcare, like he told people. They'd still be terrible plans, but he obviously has absolutely no plan whatsoever.