Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died • Hacker News Board

Re: Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died

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Post by ALittleLight » Sat, Sep 19, 2020, 1:15 AM UTC

kelnos wrote: post #380

ALittleLight wrote: post #308

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High information Republican voters will know what he did and why, and will probably support his decision. Low information Republican voters will not know about his hypocrisy. Non-Republican voters won't vote for him regardless. I expect McConnel to just create some reason why things are different this time, or, if he wants to be a troll, to say "I was wrong in 2016" or just to not address the hypocrisy and go right o…

> I expect McConnel to just create some reason why things are different this time I believe he already has. I read something a few months ago (can't find it now) where he was asked about replacing a hypothetical vacancy before the end of this year, and he hand-waved his way around the hypocrisy.

I've just discovered that he's already made a statement regarding RBG's death:

"President Trump’s nominee will receive a vote on the floor of the United States Senate."

https://www.republicanleader.senate.gov/newsroom/press-relea...

Re: Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died

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Post by tus88 » Sat, Sep 19, 2020, 1:15 AM UTC

stickyricky wrote: post #37

I think reading about Ruth and Antonin Scalia's friendship was the most wholesome political reading I've ever done. Hearing people divided in opinion, but not bitterly so, working together to figure out the best framework to construct American society from was inspirational. I hope the two halves of the political world can become friends in the way they were. Rest in peace Ruth. I hope if there's an after you and Ant…

I wonder how friendly they would have been if Scalia had managed to overturn abortion.

Re: Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died

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Post by miked85 » Sat, Sep 19, 2020, 1:15 AM UTC

monocasa wrote: post #115

charliemil4 wrote: post #104

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[removed] It will be tough, but maybe they could

They've already started. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/zoetillman/trump-suprem...

Trump released a list before he was even elected.

Re: Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died

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Post by hajile » Sat, Sep 19, 2020, 1:16 AM UTC

cwhiz wrote: post #293

jcalvinowens wrote: post #212

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> It only takes a majority in the senate and house to add a seat to the SCOTUS Exactly. If Biden wins and the senate flips, they'll just add two justices (for 11 total) to get a majority. The right will scream bloody murder, but won't be able to do anything about it.

The Senate doesn’t actually have to vote to confirm a Supreme Court justice. > and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court There is nothing except precedent to say the President can’t just directly appoint justices. And then when the appointments are inevitably challenged, who would ultimately rule on it? The Supreme…

That word consent means something...

Re: Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died

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Post by rayiner » Sat, Sep 19, 2020, 1:16 AM UTC

TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #219

seibelj wrote: post #178

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I’m sad to say you may find the grass is always greener on the other side - government corruption exists everywhere that government exists.

Sure, but, for example, Jacinda Ardern isn't Donald Trump or Boris Johnson.

Ardern campaigned on cutting legal immigration and became Prime Minister in coalition deal with the New Zealand First Party.

Re: Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died

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Post by gonesberg » Sat, Sep 19, 2020, 1:17 AM UTC

Well, that's your country fucked then eh? Bad luck.

I think your only hope now is some good old-fashioned Presidential assassination.

No-one would be more deserving than Trump to get a bullet between the eyes, eh?

Re: Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died

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Post by res0nat0r » Sat, Sep 19, 2020, 1:17 AM UTC

tunesmith wrote: post #482

res0nat0r wrote: post #278

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Also this is a good article written a few years ago that tries to tamp down a bit of the RBG cult, and that she should have retired during Obamas term if she really was concerned about keeping a liberal justice on the SCOTUS. https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/11/what-cult-ruth-...

When? Was she to have perfect foresight in the first two years of Obama's two terms that that was her only window?

When she was ~75 years old, and that doesn't take any political foresight to know she was old then.

Re: Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died

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Post by rayiner » Sat, Sep 19, 2020, 1:17 AM UTC

malandrew wrote: post #444

theshadowknows wrote: post #162

Absolutely. My family is feverishly working on how to leave this hellscape of a country we’re in. The United States is dead.

As an immigrant to this country, you have no idea how good things are here in the US. It would be nice to trade those unhappy with the US with those that would be grateful to be here.

Also as an immigrant, ditto. If you don’t like America that much, please leave. We can replace you with someone from Hong Kong.

Re: Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died

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Post by jagger27 » Sat, Sep 19, 2020, 1:17 AM UTC

edbob wrote: post #497

jagger27 wrote: post #250

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It seems to me that widespread conflict is exactly what Trump republicans want. Just this weeks' news: mass hysterectomies in ICE camps, Trump's tirade on rewriting school history books on slavery, overt mail service destruction, more anti-mask rhetoric, and the list goes on and on. They're putting the pedal to the metal.

> mass hysterectomies in ICE camps All I found was two allegations against a single doctor. That's horrible if true, but it seems like a typical case of medical malpractice that has nothing whatsoever to do with the administration.

Perhaps it was a single rogue doctor, though I wouldn't use "typical malpractice" to describe such a heinous act. What I do see is this: orders coming right from the top on specific detention policy.[1] They were willing to do child separation in the innocent days of 2018, and they got away with it. What is stopping these same people from getting bolder with their ideas and orders?

1: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/trump-cabinet-o...

Re: Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died

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Post by blake1 » Sat, Sep 19, 2020, 1:18 AM UTC

beervirus wrote: post #481

tootie wrote: post #144

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Precedent means nothing. There's no law. Mcconnell just abused his power and will do so again with no regard for his past position.

It was hardly an abuse. It was business as usual.

It was a new rule, concocted at a moments notice, and discarded the moment it outlived its usefulness. That latter moment was today. It was the definition of abuse.