FBI seized PokerStars.com, FullTiltPoker.com, UB.com,... domain names

Post by nika » Fri, Apr 15, 2011, 7:50 PM UTC

Locke1689 wrote: post #160

nika wrote: post #135

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The first definition of coin: "a piece of metal stamped and issued by the authority of a government for use as mony" These were not coins. They were not issued under government authority, nor were they represented as such.

Your pretend definition of what a "coin" is has no relevance in a court of law. They were printed metal tokens that had passing similarity to US coinage. The fact that they weren't issued by the authority of the government is the problem, not the solution.

Post by nika » Fri, Apr 15, 2011, 7:52 PM UTC

Locke1689 wrote: post #170

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If constitutionality can't be deduced by the constitution, then what deduces it? The opinion of some judges? If our fate is in the hands of a few judges (it is), doesn't this void our "democratic principles"? I can't help but feel our understanding of government isn't much more than catch phrases and sentiment. Patriotism, we the people, one nation under god, the greater good, public servants, all total bs. If we cri…

Your rant is misguided and childish. The law is dynamic because it must be applied in areas where no prior written text has a straightforward conclusion. A simple example is wiretapping laws. Because of historical stare decisis interpretations of the Constitution, it is ruled a violation of the 4th Amendment for the government to wiretap a citizen without a court order. Nowhere in the Constitution is this protection…

Post by nika » Fri, Apr 15, 2011, 7:58 PM UTC

jbooth wrote: post #127

nika wrote: post #74

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My understanding of economics is sufficient that I understood we'd be having a housing bubble in 2001, and by 2007, I'd profited massively from it and gotten out, well before the crash of 2008. All of that came from my application of economic principles. I don't think I'm entitled to my own facts. But I have read the laws here, and I find your response to be devoid of any actual argument or citation of facts and full…

Having made money in the past through whatever means doesn't mean you know what you're talking about at all here. Or, to requote the parents, "One of the signs you're dealing with a nut is that the knowledge he thinks he has allows him to accept or reject facts as he so chooses."

Post by ChuckMcM » Fri, Apr 15, 2011, 8:00 PM UTC

nika wrote: post #152

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Depends on the intentions... are you a farmer bartering your crops for another farmers meat; or are you knowingly circumventing laws. This is similar to the way Pachinko parlors work in Japan and Taiwan - you collect a ball from the machine when you win, and with a certain amount of balls you can receive various token prizes. This prize can then be redeemed around the corner at a different location for cash. Cash was…

There is no law prohibiting private currency. Disney Dollars: http://www.disneydollars.net/ BerkShares: http://www.businessweek.com/smallbiz/content/jul2007/sb20070... . Buy Local—With Town Currency Dollar alternatives, such as BerkShares in Massachusetts, are shoring up local economies by keeping money in the community Microsoft Points: http://www.xbox.com/en-US/Live/MicrosoftPoints Pittsboro Plenty: http://www.demo…

Post by AJ007 » Fri, Apr 15, 2011, 8:02 PM UTC

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SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- Federal authorities unsealed an indictment Friday against the founders of the three largest internet poker companies operating in the U.S. The indictment charges eleven defendants, including the founders of PokerStars, Full Tilt Poker, and Absolute Poker, with bank fraud, money laundering, and illegal gambling offenses, according to Federal authorities in New York. Restraining orders we…