It goes both ways: years ago in Italy, I had a housemate from Sicily. She had blond eyes and blue hair.
I think blue hair is a culturally rather then genetically transmitted trait.
Hah, sorry, reversed the order in my comment :-)
DNA sequencing of Viking skeletons reveals they weren’t all Scandinavian
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Re: DNA sequencing of Viking skeletons reveals they weren’t all Scandinavian
#92So... this isn’t news at all, but rather can be seen as supporting what our (norwegian here) own older tales and historians wrote down around the time: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heimskringla It’s well known we went around, even likely as far as asia (buddha statuettes were found in viking graves) and one of our kings (Harald Hårråde) was commander of the Byzantine royal Guard ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/H…
Heimskringla was written by Snorri Sturluson, who was not Norwegian but an Icelander.
Re: DNA sequencing of Viking skeletons reveals they weren’t all Scandinavian
#93So... this isn’t news at all, but rather can be seen as supporting what our (norwegian here) own older tales and historians wrote down around the time: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heimskringla It’s well known we went around, even likely as far as asia (buddha statuettes were found in viking graves) and one of our kings (Harald Hårråde) was commander of the Byzantine royal Guard ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/H…
The Russian Vikings (i.e. the Vikings who in the 9th century founded the original Russian state - Kievan Rus and accompanying dukedoms around - and ruled it for several centuries after that) were raiding as far as Caspian Sea and Iran and bringing the trophies - goods and slaves - for sale back as far as Scandinavia. So there were a lot of cross-continental blood/DNA mixing during those centuries (9th-12th) until Mon…
I would insists on differentiating Rus and Russia.
Rus was not the Russian state. If you want to associate it with any modern nation, then it would be Ukrainian.
But really, it was Rus.
P.S. Just like ancient Roman state was not Italian state or Romanian state.
Re: DNA sequencing of Viking skeletons reveals they weren’t all Scandinavian
#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
Please don't go on generic ideological flamewar tangents here. It leads to predictable, tedious, and usually nasty threads. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor... We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24508308 .
What about comments like these, dang? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24502064 They remain up despite flagging and reporting. What value, in your mind, do these bring? (I'm mentioning this here since it's a detached thread anyway)
Of course that's a bad comment, but would you please stop posting so many bad ones yourself? It just makes things worse.
Re: DNA sequencing of Viking skeletons reveals they weren’t all Scandinavian
#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
> “I already lost my faith in the cultural "western" elites. I hate to sound like a hardcore conservative...” Really? This is hardly dog vivisection by the Royal Society. If it’s bad science and can be shown to be inconsistent, why ‘lose faith’? That’s what science is about.
“ You cannot reason a man out of what he never reasoned himself into.” Attributed to Jonathan Swift The issue is that these elites did not come to their conclusion through science. They came to their conclusion because they are trying to push a certain narrative. Thus, no matter what data you show them, they will always find a way to cling to their narrative. Even worse, you might get cancelled for promulgating data…
> "This is not science!"
This is not a response to your comment. Hahaha
Re: DNA sequencing of Viking skeletons reveals they weren’t all Scandinavian
#96As usual, the university's public relations summary of the paper does not match the claims the paper makes. It makes grandiose claims of debunkings and is written from the point of view of whatever societal issue is popular today (identity and population movement). Link to preprint: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/334525855_Populatio... I'm not seeing any claims there that are new. It is cool to have more da…
> I'm not seeing any claims there that are new.
I think you are understating the results, even if the summary overblown how "disrupting" the results are. There is a number of interesting findings in the paper.
Re: DNA sequencing of Viking skeletons reveals they weren’t all Scandinavian
#97So... this isn’t news at all, but rather can be seen as supporting what our (norwegian here) own older tales and historians wrote down around the time: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heimskringla It’s well known we went around, even likely as far as asia (buddha statuettes were found in viking graves) and one of our kings (Harald Hårråde) was commander of the Byzantine royal Guard ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/H…
Heimskringla was written by Snorri Sturluson, who was not Norwegian but an Icelander.
Same difference back then.
(Iceland was basically expat Norwegians who held more on to the older beliefs while Norway got ravaged by christianity, and as a consequence of the priests going straight from dying rites to baptisms; the black plague.)