Live data from Hacker News

Update on Firefox Send and Firefox Notes

blog.mozilla.org

71–80 of 203 posts

Re: Update on Firefox Send and Firefox Notes

#71
post #22

Looks like Mozilla is becoming VPN company shifting it's previous focus which was on browserware. Mozilla VPN seems to be just rebranded resell of Mullavad VPN with Mozilla Goodies. Mozilla Monitor seems to use https://haveibeenpwned.com/ (also as seen in Firefox desktop) Mozilla Firefox Private Network looks like another Cloudflare Warp's rebrand (with litte good additions maybe?) seeing that it uses Cloudflare . Mo…

They are going through the necessary but deeply painful process of diversifying their income away from Google payments, which is much easier said than done. Mozillas initially incredible partnership with Google, from which they earn the vast majority of their income, essentially turned toxic once Google started experimenting with Chrome. On that day Google’s favourite browser to support shifted from Firefox to Chrome…

[deleted]

Re: Update on Firefox Send and Firefox Notes

#73
post #22

Looks like Mozilla is becoming VPN company shifting it's previous focus which was on browserware. Mozilla VPN seems to be just rebranded resell of Mullavad VPN with Mozilla Goodies. Mozilla Monitor seems to use https://haveibeenpwned.com/ (also as seen in Firefox desktop) Mozilla Firefox Private Network looks like another Cloudflare Warp's rebrand (with litte good additions maybe?) seeing that it uses Cloudflare . Mo…

>and Management division may force in future to ditch Gecko and adopt Webkit/Blink in the hope that it could bring more userbase (just my thought) to lessen maintainance and focus on revenue.

They laid off most people working on Servo, so the adoption of WebKit/Blink seems rather likely.

Re: Update on Firefox Send and Firefox Notes

#74
post #39

Why couldn’t they make send work and make money while https://wetransfer.com/ is flourishing?

I'll bet they got gunshy dealing with abuse and illegal uses of the service. A real shame as it's a no-brainer service to have in their software suite, and a great complement to the browser

True but I’m not sure if when I think about the various ways to send a file on my computer that my web browser really comes to mind.

Super neat service, makes total sense in Mozilla’s portfolio but I don’t see it as a natural part of the browser.

Re: Update on Firefox Send and Firefox Notes

#75
post #68
post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Does anyone blame the postal service? Yes? Do you think the USPS does nothing to detect bombs in the mail? You can’t earn trust by saying “that’s not my problem.”

Ok, fine, they scan for bombs. So people shift to mailing sealed anthrax envelopes (which has happened). A public service is also going to be used by criminals, yet we do not expect the service to be shut down.

> So people shift to mailing sealed anthrax envelopes (which has happened).

Which they also scan for?

The USPS does try to keep the mail safe, and generally does a good job.

Mozilla cannot make the same guarantees about Send so they shut it down.

Re: Update on Firefox Send and Firefox Notes

#76

Wrong title, Mozilla; title should have been "Firefox Send and Firefox Notes to be discontinued soon", or something like that. Don't hide behind the fact. Tell the fact in the title.

Firefox Send was effectively shut down months ago due to it being used to spread malware, but you could find messages saying that they're working on bringing it back.

I interpret this news as "it's not coming back".

Re: Update on Firefox Send and Firefox Notes

#77
post #68
post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Does anyone blame the postal service? Yes? Do you think the USPS does nothing to detect bombs in the mail? You can’t earn trust by saying “that’s not my problem.”

Ok, fine, they scan for bombs. So people shift to mailing sealed anthrax envelopes (which has happened). A public service is also going to be used by criminals, yet we do not expect the service to be shut down.

The USPS literally detects anthrax too as a result of that happening.

Re: Update on Firefox Send and Firefox Notes

#78
post #22

Looks like Mozilla is becoming VPN company shifting it's previous focus which was on browserware. Mozilla VPN seems to be just rebranded resell of Mullavad VPN with Mozilla Goodies. Mozilla Monitor seems to use https://haveibeenpwned.com/ (also as seen in Firefox desktop) Mozilla Firefox Private Network looks like another Cloudflare Warp's rebrand (with litte good additions maybe?) seeing that it uses Cloudflare . Mo…

>and Management division may force in future to ditch Gecko and adopt Webkit/Blink in the hope that it could bring more userbase (just my thought) to lessen maintainance and focus on revenue. They laid off most people working on Servo, so the adoption of WebKit/Blink seems rather likely.

I certainly hope it doesn't come to that. Servo was really starting to show serious improvements in both memory usage and speed relative to Gecko and Webkit. It would be a shame to see Firefox devolve into just another rebranded Webkit browser, particularly since everyone loses when things devolve to a monoculture.

Re: Update on Firefox Send and Firefox Notes

#79
post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because all those side projects are not made to make Firefox, or Mozilla foundation better, but to have nice greenfield projects that allow to boost CV and find a job elsewhere. All those side projects is the reason while Firefox is dying. They completely ignored their core product: they made a worse copy of Chrome that killed all extensions.

But old Firefox extension model (when an extension could patch any part of browser's code) did not guarantee that the extension would stay compatible forever. It was more quick and dirty hack rather than a proper standartised extension model.

Mozilla had 1000 well paid people, maybe they should have tried to figure this out.

But instead of focusing on their core product, like 50 people dealt with Firefox and 950 did various side projects that nobody used.

I get it, hard projects are hard. But it doesnt help that nobody is interested in Firefox development and most people focus on useless side projects used to boost their CV.

Re: Update on Firefox Send and Firefox Notes

#80
post #68
post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Does anyone blame the postal service? Yes? Do you think the USPS does nothing to detect bombs in the mail? You can’t earn trust by saying “that’s not my problem.”

Ok, fine, they scan for bombs. So people shift to mailing sealed anthrax envelopes (which has happened). A public service is also going to be used by criminals, yet we do not expect the service to be shut down.

Because it’s a public service funded by the government.
Post reply on HN