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Germany will violate international agreements with Unitary Patent, says FFII

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Re: Germany will violate international agreements with Unitary Patent, says FFII

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Post by flak48 »

Denvercoder9 wrote: post #180
ArkVark wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The EU is not a great place for innovation, period. Here are the major problems: 1. No common language 2. Incredibly high taxes, particularly sales taxes 3. Unfinished transition out of Communism in many Eastern Countries 4. Preference for cheap illegal labor instead of automation This could be solved by: 1. Formalising an 'EU English' language so that schools teaching it can open up around the continent and families…

This reads more like a (ultra-)right-wing party program than a substantiated plan to increase innovation.

Yep it reads like a xenophobic copypasta that can be used in any context just by changing the first line of the comment

Re: Germany will violate international agreements with Unitary Patent, says FFII

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Post by kilburn »

disown wrote: post #156
normalnorm wrote: post #63

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> I doubt the EU will survive in its current state. A lot of people desire this to be true, but that does not mean that it is. It is a particularly weird opinion to hold in the wake of the most recent challenge to its continuity -- the Brexit fiasco, with the EU having maintained a united front for more than 4 years, while the UK emerges out of it in a terrible state -- and the worst is yet to come. The EU is not per…

> It is a particularly weird opinion to hold in the wake of the most recent challenge to its continuity -- the Brexit fiasco, with the EU having maintained a united front for more than 4 years, while the UK emerges out of it in a terrible state -- and the worst is yet to come. If would be a weird opinion to hold if the EU managed to keep britain. But the fact that the EU lost a major nation doesn't make it a weird op…

> heck EU members don't really have a name do they?

This is very funny assuming you are from the USA. What do you call yourselves?

Re: Germany will violate international agreements with Unitary Patent, says FFII

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Post by jariel »

addicted wrote: post #172
jariel wrote: post #68

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"That she is on the position is testament to the democratic dysfunction of the Union." ??? That she has her position is the most glaring evidence of 'democratic dysfunction'. Nobody voted for her, she was unknown before the election. The very few people that voted in the EU elected voted for something else, after the election 'the true powers' decided to push the ostensible candidate aside, and behind closed doors wi…

That sounds like, parliamentary democracy? I mean, how many regular people voted for Boris Johnson as PM, for example. The answer is exactly 0. That's just how parliamentary democracy works.

No it's not 'like a parliamentary democracy' at all - the only 'resemblance' is that that there is some degree of 'representation'.

But the similarities end there.

You've actually provided a specific example - the most recent UK election, which highlights even further the lack of democracy in the EU, which is a 'confidence' election based on some important or existential issue, in that case, Brexit.

+ Voters were very well informed that Boris Johnson was to be the PM if a specific party were elected + They were very aware of the general platform of the parties + They were even more aware that the issue at the crux of the election was the type of resolution towards Brexit. + UK elected MPs have tremendous power - demonstrated in that very case: previous to the election, Boris Johnson faced a kind of censure by Parliament several times, MPs of all stripes voting for and against him. + The UK MPs collectively introduced legislation and forced the hand of government on several occasions. + The government was threatened with dissolution on several occasions, over a very important issue.

None of this happens in the EU, by design.

The EU is not a 'representative democracy' rather, it's a political entity which governs largely unto it's own devices - but in which some actions must have it's actions approved by elected officials.

Re: Germany will violate international agreements with Unitary Patent, says FFII

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

qalmakka wrote: post #123
Kudos wrote: post #33

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It's not that funny, you must not understand how transformative the Good Friday Agreement was for Ireland and the UK, even if the typical Brit has no idea. It is a far broader reaching concern than software patents in Germany.

I think the only way to really understand why the Good Friday agreement is important is to visit Belfast. You need to walk through the neighborhoods in order to see the gates, the Peace Walls, the murales and the signs expressing the grief and pain of two communities who have hated each other up to the point of killing each other, and still live just a few meters apart. The whole city felt to me like a wounded animal…

When I was in school in mainland UK IRA bomb threats were a thing, the Manchester bombings still live large in my memory.

Even from a distance the importance of the peace brokered in Ireland is tangible, I feel.

What the royals and ruling classes did to Ireland seems as bad as anything they did elsewhere in the 'Empire'. It mightn't be logical, but all that history can't be ignored. The memories of oppression live long.

Re: Germany will violate international agreements with Unitary Patent, says FFII

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Post by LargoLasskhyfv »

raxxorrax wrote: post #12
tpetry wrote: post #7

As a german i am quite sure they will ratify software patents. The very sad part is the people deciding this have absolutely no understanding what they are doing and that they open the box of pandora. There is currently almost no invest money in european startups, and if everyone of these startups is liable for bogus software patents they will have absolutely no chance on getting big.

With von der Leyen being president, I am pretty sure we make the wrong decision. Yes, some Europeans might think she looks sympathetic, especially those that don't know her well because of language barriers. That she is on the position is testament to the democratic dysfunction of the Union. Officially she is in a conservative party, which eastern European countries liked very much. If we want to take democracy serio…

Hauptsache Haare schön...äh Fönfrisur:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3cytC5i9k4

Re: Germany will violate international agreements with Unitary Patent, says FFII

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Post by LargoLasskhyfv »

lippel82 wrote: post #161
turbinerneiter wrote: post #133

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One of her kids works for one of the big consulting companies she loved to hire. But more importantly, the people working for her on the government side were often super close to the consultants they hired. As the minister, she takes responsibility for what is going on in her ministry - and that was full of friends giving contracts to friends.

To be fair, her son worked in the silicon valley office in a very junior position at the time. That's very far removed from the German public sector consulting. She has seven well educated children, they have to work somewhere...

It's called networking.

Re: Germany will violate international agreements with Unitary Patent, says FFII

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Post by LargoLasskhyfv »

lippel82 wrote: post #165
fxtentacle wrote: post #160

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She hired the company where her son was working using taxpayer money. And then that company paid commission for it to her son. So she indirectly paid taxpayer money to her son.

Her son worked in the silicon valley office in a very junior position at the time. That's very far removed from the German public sector consulting. And where did you get that bit about commissions? I'm pretty sure that McKinsey doesn't pay any commissions whatsoever to junior consultants.

It's called networking.

Re: Germany will violate international agreements with Unitary Patent, says FFII

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

aagd wrote: post #137
ta20200917 wrote: post #106

Github and other OpenSource hosting sites should pretty much invalidate any possible software patent claim via prior art, right ?

These patents might open the doors for legal battles that small companies might just not have the resources for. They're a perfect tool for trolls and bullies.

You don't need much in the way of resources to invalidate a patent. Proof of prior use, or published prior disclosure. The measure of proof being balance-of-probabilities.

If you have that you're immune, show up with your print out, you get costs.

If you lose you might have to, for example, hand over profits.

The flipside is that small companies can use patents to prevent unlicensed exploitation of their own inventions.

This is my personal view and does not relate to my employment.

Re: Germany will violate international agreements with Unitary Patent, says FFII

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

dataflow wrote: post #43
kzrdude wrote: post #16

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The enthusiasts need to temper their dreams and expectations - EU is doing fine, and doesn't need to always become more powerful or more integrated. Especially not now, when citizens don't want it.

> EU is doing fine If it is, why isn't it cracking down more seriously on, say, GDPR violations already? Is giving companies multiple years to adjust still not enough? Or does a serious enforcement of its laws not fall under the umbrella of doing fine (nor sure if pun intended)?

Comparatively? Which countries are doing more to protect citizens from data-hungry corporations?

Re: Germany will violate international agreements with Unitary Patent, says FFII

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Post by malandrew »

ipnon wrote: post #158
adammunich wrote: post #154

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China

China's stereotype is having no copyright enforcement, but this seems to be wrong. >Plaintiffs won in 80.16% of all patent infringement cases included in the population. Such a win rate was higher than its counterparts in many major countries – Germany (approximately 66%) and the United States (approximately 60%), for example. https://patentlyo.com/patent/2018/02/things-infringement-lit...

Are there statistics based on national origin of defendant and plaintiff?

I'm curious if 80.16% rate for all cases holds up when the defendant is a domestic company and the plaintiff is a foreign company and vice versa.

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