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Germany will violate international agreements with Unitary Patent, says FFII

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Re: Germany will violate international agreements with Unitary Patent, says FFII

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post #7

As a german i am quite sure they will ratify software patents. The very sad part is the people deciding this have absolutely no understanding what they are doing and that they open the box of pandora. There is currently almost no invest money in european startups, and if everyone of these startups is liable for bogus software patents they will have absolutely no chance on getting big.

With von der Leyen being president, I am pretty sure we make the wrong decision. Yes, some Europeans might think she looks sympathetic, especially those that don't know her well because of language barriers. That she is on the position is testament to the democratic dysfunction of the Union.

Officially she is in a conservative party, which eastern European countries liked very much.

If we want to take democracy seriously, we would need a common language or at least a common media landscape. We could just use US media of course. They have the opposite problem that everyone understands what they are saying.

Re: Germany will violate international agreements with Unitary Patent, says FFII

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post #7

As a german i am quite sure they will ratify software patents. The very sad part is the people deciding this have absolutely no understanding what they are doing and that they open the box of pandora. There is currently almost no invest money in european startups, and if everyone of these startups is liable for bogus software patents they will have absolutely no chance on getting big.

With von der Leyen being president, I am pretty sure we make the wrong decision. Yes, some Europeans might think she looks sympathetic, especially those that don't know her well because of language barriers. That she is on the position is testament to the democratic dysfunction of the Union. Officially she is in a conservative party, which eastern European countries liked very much. If we want to take democracy serio…

It only became apparent to me yesterday on another forum how much central Europeans, especially Germans, seem to quite dislike von der Leyen!

Re: Germany will violate international agreements with Unitary Patent, says FFII

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post #4

I haven’t heard about this Unitary Patent Court. Is this a new judicial body in the EU? Where does it’s position rank compared to other EU judicial bodies? The article seems to be written for those (legislators) who would already know the background

> I haven’t heard about this Unitary Patent Court. That's probably intentional.

What do you mean by that? Do you seriously think that somebody (who exactly?) is suppressing news about this court? Isn't it _a lot_ more probable that this is simply a highly technical issue that doesn't get a lot of attention?

As somebody who is somewhat invested into EU law but not into patent law I have already heard about it by the way.

I'm always very skeptical about this sort of vague accusation, implying that there is some sort of conspiracy.

Re: Germany will violate international agreements with Unitary Patent, says FFII

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post #7

As a german i am quite sure they will ratify software patents. The very sad part is the people deciding this have absolutely no understanding what they are doing and that they open the box of pandora. There is currently almost no invest money in european startups, and if everyone of these startups is liable for bogus software patents they will have absolutely no chance on getting big.

With von der Leyen being president, I am pretty sure we make the wrong decision. Yes, some Europeans might think she looks sympathetic, especially those that don't know her well because of language barriers. That she is on the position is testament to the democratic dysfunction of the Union. Officially she is in a conservative party, which eastern European countries liked very much. If we want to take democracy serio…

>Yes, some Europeans might think she looks sympathetic

Are we talking about the same Ursula von der Leyen?

Re: Germany will violate international agreements with Unitary Patent, says FFII

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The law itself makes sense in my opinion, but the way it was introduced makes the self declaration as being democratic a cheap farce. I doubt the EU will survive in its current state. 10 years ago that would have made me sad. There are enthusiasts, but not enough to make it work.

The enthusiasts need to temper their dreams and expectations - EU is doing fine, and doesn't need to always become more powerful or more integrated. Especially not now, when citizens don't want it.

Re: Germany will violate international agreements with Unitary Patent, says FFII

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post #10

But only in a "limited and specific" way, so that's okay [UK in-joke] At least we're not the only country wanting to violate international agreements at present

>At least we're not the only country wanting to violate international agreements at present

Countries do it all the time and there are conflicts because it all the time everywhere. UK is slightly different because EU is much stronger than UK, withdrawal agreement is important to keep food, medicine and skills flowing between borders.

UK government is planning and making first successful steps towards breaking withdrawal agreement before it's even in place. So why would EU even bother continuing wasting time and resources in this stupid game where they won't be the losers?

Re: Germany will violate international agreements with Unitary Patent, says FFII

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

With von der Leyen being president, I am pretty sure we make the wrong decision. Yes, some Europeans might think she looks sympathetic, especially those that don't know her well because of language barriers. That she is on the position is testament to the democratic dysfunction of the Union. Officially she is in a conservative party, which eastern European countries liked very much. If we want to take democracy serio…

It only became apparent to me yesterday on another forum how much central Europeans, especially Germans, seem to quite dislike von der Leyen!

She did a lot of dumb shit while we still had her in Germany.

Re: Germany will violate international agreements with Unitary Patent, says FFII

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post #14
post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I haven’t heard about this Unitary Patent Court. That's probably intentional.

What do you mean by that? Do you seriously think that somebody (who exactly?) is suppressing news about this court? Isn't it _a lot_ more probable that this is simply a highly technical issue that doesn't get a lot of attention? As somebody who is somewhat invested into EU law but not into patent law I have already heard about it by the way. I'm always very skeptical about this sort of vague accusation, implying that…

> What do you mean by that?

Well. The less you know about how and what bureaucracy does, the less can you ask yourself why does it exist in the first place. And the more bureaucrats can keep their pointless jobs.

It's not so much conspiracy as protection by obfuscation. I bet you don't know why you need even half of documents in your last encounter with it.

Re: Germany will violate international agreements with Unitary Patent, says FFII

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post #10

But only in a "limited and specific" way, so that's okay [UK in-joke] At least we're not the only country wanting to violate international agreements at present

Countries break international law all the time [1]. Doesn't make it right of course, but funny how in the UK's case it suddently makes headlines (no surprise really from the usual remainer-suspects).

[1] https://www.insideover.com/politics/un-accuses-eu-of-violati...

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