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Scientists say a mind-bending rhythm in the brain can act like ketamine

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It's quite the leap going from brain rhythms mentioned in the research to anecdotal talk of audio drum rhythms isn't it? There's no mention of audio in that article. Brain rhythms in this context simply mean patterns of neural activity. this activity happens all the time, even in people who are profoundly deaf.

Yes. Why is everyone here talking about music? This has nothing to do with that.

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It would be great if you could link to a recording that you think could induce this state, given that you’re an expert in this field! If I’m left to search on my own I’m not sure I’ll find the correct recording.

I’ve been experimenting with this myself and this video https://youtu.be/BwqH7l9xSgo along with some breathwork does seem to work.

can you describe this "breathework"? So we can determine if mild asphyxia can be ruled out.

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There was an interesting section in Michael Pollan's book "How to Change Your Mind" about combining breathwork with drumming. It seems with the right setup that you can induce certain altered states of consciousness that are pretty equivalent to certain psychedelics. I'm definitely interested in seeing what can be done to without the aid of drugs. As someone who had some bad trips that gave me 6 months of anxiety, a…

I've found there are certain Tool songs (46 & 2, Lateralus) that it's not a good idea to listen to when doing something that requires focus (like riding my motorcycle), they make me get lost and zone out far faster. On the other hand when trying to calm my mind after a busy day there is nothing better.

I really like Tool but never get that...unfortunately :)

Maybe try "We Are" on Asymmetry by Karnivool as well. I find the drums quite mesmerising, i've heard it's not quite as complex as it sounds.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There was an interesting section in Michael Pollan's book "How to Change Your Mind" about combining breathwork with drumming. It seems with the right setup that you can induce certain altered states of consciousness that are pretty equivalent to certain psychedelics. I'm definitely interested in seeing what can be done to without the aid of drugs. As someone who had some bad trips that gave me 6 months of anxiety, a…

I'm considering trying LSD soon for its therapeutic potential and am concerned about anxiety as an input and output of tripping, as it were. Would you be open to sharing your experience with me? Sorry if that's out of line.

I took too much and didn't have the relevant experience.

If you take a low dose and follow harm reduction practices you should be fine. Just make sure you do your research ahead of time, and go in knowing the risks. If you have underlying mental health issues, then be careful, and maybe consider alternatives that don't require drugs.

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post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There was an interesting section in Michael Pollan's book "How to Change Your Mind" about combining breathwork with drumming. It seems with the right setup that you can induce certain altered states of consciousness that are pretty equivalent to certain psychedelics. I'm definitely interested in seeing what can be done to without the aid of drugs. As someone who had some bad trips that gave me 6 months of anxiety, a…

I'm considering trying LSD soon for its therapeutic potential and am concerned about anxiety as an input and output of tripping, as it were. Would you be open to sharing your experience with me? Sorry if that's out of line.

as long as on your first time you start with a low dose, in a safe, familiar setting with people you trust, you'll thoroughly enjoy your experience. I would not recommend smoking weed at all.

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I am not surprised. I may be speaking from ignorance but this seems to be at the center of a lot of spiritual experience. In south India, during village festivals (which are closer to folk religion rather than mainstream Hinduism) there is an event where devotees play music to encourage Goddess descend on an individual and the person eventually acts as if that Goddess has descended and he or she is possessed by the s…

I don't know how common this is but they could also be using bhang?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhang

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From an old documentary I watched early '00s (no idea what it was called), there was a musician that claimed music with a BPM between 135-140BPM and a 16th note bass line was in a frequency range that made it very easy for the human brain to sync up to it. Something about being very close to the Theta wave (or which ever brain wave, it's been a long time since I've seen it). This would result in a dance floor full of…

Reminds me of "Human Time" 94-96BPM https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/radiolab/articles/26978... > JAD: Because if we're unconsciously speeding up slow beats and slowing down fast beats, well, there's got to be ... MATTHEW GUERRIERI: Some particular point ... JAD: ... right in the middle ... MATTHEW GUERRIERI: ... where our judgment of time actually syncs up with actual time. JAD: Where in other words, we guess th…

I thoroughly enjoyed that, in particular I was delighted by the push-the-tempo Beethoven renditions. Really shreds. I can definitely get behind the theory that Beethoven wanted that feeling of making the audience, and performers, uncomfortable.

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I’ve studied Afro-Cuban percussion for 28 years now and I can tell you from experience there are some bata rhythms that definitely make the listener enter into a heavy trance state. Haitian vodun drumming is especially designed for generating trance and out of body experiences in its entirety. If you can find an old recording of Haitian voodoo drums give it a listen using good headphones with your eyes closed, and af…

Everyone is talking about music yet the “rhythm” in the article has nothing to do with music.

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post #109

I’ve studied Afro-Cuban percussion for 28 years now and I can tell you from experience there are some bata rhythms that definitely make the listener enter into a heavy trance state. Haitian vodun drumming is especially designed for generating trance and out of body experiences in its entirety. If you can find an old recording of Haitian voodoo drums give it a listen using good headphones with your eyes closed, and af…

Everyone is talking about music yet the “rhythm” in the article has nothing to do with music.

Rhythm IS music
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