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Germany will violate international agreements with Unitary Patent, says FFII

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Re: Germany will violate international agreements with Unitary Patent, says FFII

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Post by pantalaimon »

KingOfCoders wrote: post #54
ctas wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't consider her being in the conservative party the actual problem. In Germany she's well known for nepotism and corruptness, even if until this day she successfully evaded the punishment. Not long ago there's been a claim that her phone contains important evidence in support of the accusation, but it turned out that data on the phone had been "accidentally" wiped.

"In Germany she's well known for nepotism" As a German this is not "well known" to me, do you have a source? Until now I thought one Accenture manager was the godfather of a child of a deparment manager in the ministry of defence and Accenture got an consulting gig? I didn't know until now she was giving jobs to her relatives.

I still have a “Zensursula” T-Shirt from when she wanted to introduce Internet censorship because “think of the children”.

Re: Germany will violate international agreements with Unitary Patent, says FFII

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Post by growlist »

pjc50 wrote: post #39
CodeGlitch wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Countries break international law all the time [1]. Doesn't make it right of course, but funny how in the UK's case it suddently makes headlines (no surprise really from the usual remainer-suspects). [1] https://www.insideover.com/politics/un-accuses-eu-of-violati...

This is unusual not only because of the possible impact on the Northern Ireland peace treaty, but because it's an agreement that was only just made by the same government. Which makes the whole process look particularly stupid and insulting. It's also the deliberateness that has upset people - breaching a complex agreement inadvertently is very different from setting out to do it deliberately.

The EU do it all the time. But I guess that doesn't count for some reason or other...

Re: Germany will violate international agreements with Unitary Patent, says FFII

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Post by zoobab »

trumpeta wrote: post #57
ginko wrote: post #15

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>Yes, some Europeans might think she looks sympathetic Are we talking about the same Ursula von der Leyen?

I found her sympathetic based on her statements about protection of democratic values in Poland and standing up for oppressed minorities in Asia. I haven't yet seen her bad side I guess.

The violation of the Rule of Law in Poland and Hungary is exactly what it is about here. We have a rogue administration (the EPO) which cannot be brought to court:

"4. UPCA is violating the “rule of law” (TFEU Art2), the EPO cannot be brought to court for maladministration"

Re: Germany will violate international agreements with Unitary Patent, says FFII

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Post by thelastname »

chki wrote: post #23
kzrdude wrote: post #16

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The enthusiasts need to temper their dreams and expectations - EU is doing fine, and doesn't need to always become more powerful or more integrated. Especially not now, when citizens don't want it.

>Especially not now, when citizens don't want it. Citation needed. While there is some anti-European sentiment in all member states those are almost always in the minority. There are a lot of people who want more integration.

European Constitution fiasco is a good example.

Re: Germany will violate international agreements with Unitary Patent, says FFII

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Post by KingOfCoders »

jariel wrote: post #68
raxxorrax wrote: post #12

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With von der Leyen being president, I am pretty sure we make the wrong decision. Yes, some Europeans might think she looks sympathetic, especially those that don't know her well because of language barriers. That she is on the position is testament to the democratic dysfunction of the Union. Officially she is in a conservative party, which eastern European countries liked very much. If we want to take democracy serio…

"That she is on the position is testament to the democratic dysfunction of the Union." ??? That she has her position is the most glaring evidence of 'democratic dysfunction'. Nobody voted for her, she was unknown before the election. The very few people that voted in the EU elected voted for something else, after the election 'the true powers' decided to push the ostensible candidate aside, and behind closed doors wi…

The president of the comission is basically a civil service job.

Re: Germany will violate international agreements with Unitary Patent, says FFII

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Post by Ygg2 »

chki wrote: post #45
Ygg2 wrote: post #19

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> What do you mean by that? Well. The less you know about how and what bureaucracy does, the less can you ask yourself why does it exist in the first place. And the more bureaucrats can keep their pointless jobs. It's not so much conspiracy as protection by obfuscation. I bet you don't know why you need even half of documents in your last encounter with it.

> I bet you don't know why you need even half of documents in your last encounter with it. I guess you loose that bet.

I guess. I still wonder about triplicate of that form despite having those info on my ID card.

Re: Germany will violate international agreements with Unitary Patent, says FFII

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Post by _Microft »

ctas wrote: post #38
raxxorrax wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With von der Leyen being president, I am pretty sure we make the wrong decision. Yes, some Europeans might think she looks sympathetic, especially those that don't know her well because of language barriers. That she is on the position is testament to the democratic dysfunction of the Union. Officially she is in a conservative party, which eastern European countries liked very much. If we want to take democracy serio…

I don't consider her being in the conservative party the actual problem. In Germany she's well known for nepotism and corruptness, even if until this day she successfully evaded the punishment. Not long ago there's been a claim that her phone contains important evidence in support of the accusation, but it turned out that data on the phone had been "accidentally" wiped.

I'm german and it's the first time I hear someone calling her corrupt or nepotistic.

Re: Germany will violate international agreements with Unitary Patent, says FFII

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Post by C1sc0cat »

Kudos wrote: post #33
CodeGlitch wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Countries break international law all the time [1]. Doesn't make it right of course, but funny how in the UK's case it suddently makes headlines (no surprise really from the usual remainer-suspects). [1] https://www.insideover.com/politics/un-accuses-eu-of-violati...

It's not that funny, you must not understand how transformative the Good Friday Agreement was for Ireland and the UK, even if the typical Brit has no idea. It is a far broader reaching concern than software patents in Germany.

Probably because Germany only had the not very effective RAF terrorists as opposed to the UDF and IRA.

Re: Germany will violate international agreements with Unitary Patent, says FFII

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Post by the-dude »

diffeomorphism wrote: post #69
KingOfCoders wrote: post #44

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Not a fan of her, but can you name 10 things ("lot of") that are "dumb shit" that she did?

"zensursula" is quite well-known. "Accidently" erasing her phone and destroying files during an investigation. Several scandals and affairs in relation to the Bundeswehr. Not ten, but these immediately come to mind.

Didn't she lie about her education?

Re: Germany will violate international agreements with Unitary Patent, says FFII

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Post by C1sc0cat »

detritus wrote: post #70
CodeGlitch wrote: post #20

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Countries break international law all the time [1]. Doesn't make it right of course, but funny how in the UK's case it suddently makes headlines (no surprise really from the usual remainer-suspects). [1] https://www.insideover.com/politics/un-accuses-eu-of-violati...

The UK was one of the most compliant EU members. Personally I'd've preferred staying in the EU and exercising a little more 'flexibility' in interpreting bloc rules to suit our tastes, as some other EU states are wont to do.

Applying the national interest in the case of ARM or even Cadbury (if France can do it for Danone)
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