Nova by Panic

Post by rimliu » Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 8:56 AM UTC

madeofpalk wrote: post #123

brainless wrote: post #14

I feel if a domain has a very well evolving, competitive open source offering (VS Code), it's really hard to sell something else if the feature difference isn't big. Perhaps they should have started by targeting something other than web development.

Nova feels like an editor for 10, 15 years ago when they were making Coda. It feels like its for when you have a bunch of simple static HTML files and maybe a sass watcher. These days, web development got both more mature, complicated, and simpler, all in ways that makes it hard for Nova to make sense.

   > These days, web development got both more mature,
   > complicated, and simpler

Post by read_if_gay_ » Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 9:14 AM UTC

noobermin wrote: post #417

TwoBit wrote: post #378

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As long as PC laptops continue to use that terrible Synaptics touchpad system, they will always be inferior. Anybody I've seen who claims any PC touchpad matches a Mac doesn't know what they are talking about. And I say this as a user of both but mostly PC.

I had a 2016 macbook and an HP Spectre 360. The touchpads were comparable. On the other hand, the macOS part of the macbook was pretty terrible.

Post by read_if_gay_ » Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 9:25 AM UTC

RussianCow wrote: post #299

Nextgrid wrote: post #233

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Just the fact that Nova is ~36MB and VSCode is ~3x that at ~95MB should at least point you in the right direction. Also note that Nova already includes features that are only available via separate plugins on VSCode.

But 95MB is small enough that it doesn't matter—1/3 the size of basically nothing is still basically nothing. Even in terms of memory or CPU usage, VS Code is relatively efficient compared to some other products on the market such as the JetBrains IDEs. Say what you will about Electron apps in general, but Microsoft has done a great job in making VS Code not feel like a typical Electron app.

Post by whywhywhywhy » Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 9:32 AM UTC

sumedh wrote: post #345

ddevault wrote: post #340

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>I can't imagine the world of hurt, discomfort and frustration of developing against a lib set I can't read source code of or improve. Thank you . It boggles the mind that anyone who can write code would ever use a closed source operating system.

Do the Windows based laptops have a similar touchpad like the Mac which just works, last time I checked they did not.

Post by [deleted] » Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 9:34 AM UTC

fsloth wrote: post #424

noobermin wrote: post #420

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It's almost as if none of the replies read Drew's comment. Drew is talking about developing an editor for a closed source system and dealing with interfaces that break and then are hard to change, unlike open source systems that receive patches. It has nothing to do with "tweak[ing] the platform." Fixing a bug (which upstream would do, not you) is not tweaking, a bug is unintended behavior.

Yes, but I am not paid to fix the platform. From my employers point of view it is irrelevant if I could fix the platform since they most certainly don't want to pay for it. This is not evil . It's just how some parts of the industry work.