The hover effect on the CTA is amazing.
Want to see a blog post about how that effect was made more than the editor :/
Nova by Panic
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#412Earlier quoted context omitted.
100% of the time for me. I prefer the trackpad over the mouse.
100% of the time for me, I wouldn't wipe my butt with a trackpad, let alone use one for work. It's always fun for me to meet people who do things the complete opposite I do them. It's oddly satisfying, like, I'm glad someone is my polar opposite on an issue or activity.
Tabs or spaces ?
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#413I'm a bit confused by the value prop here, or maybe I'm just missing it. There seems to be much talk of theming and extensibility, features which every existing text editor has.
This is not meant to put down the product—I've bought and enjoyed multiple Panic products in the past.
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#414Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just the fact that Nova is ~36MB and VSCode is ~3x that at ~95MB should at least point you in the right direction. Also note that Nova already includes features that are only available via separate plugins on VSCode.
But 95MB is small enough that it doesn't matter—1/3 the size of basically nothing is still basically nothing. Even in terms of memory or CPU usage, VS Code is relatively efficient compared to some other products on the market such as the JetBrains IDEs. Say what you will about Electron apps in general, but Microsoft has done a great job in making VS Code not feel like a typical Electron app.
If you have 4G of ram and 120G of disk and a slow internet connection all of this matter.
Fwiw before getting internet fiber, a 95MB file resulted in about 20 min download (my reference was 300MB an hour).
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#415Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's the same for VSCode and JS/TS support though. Fighting against a fully featured, free, open-source and well-established product just on the basis of speed is going to be an uphill battle.
There is a big "ugh, Electron apps" contingent of Mac users. Or at least, there's a loud one, and I guess they figured it's also a big-enough one...
VSC is more of a memory hog but in use it isn’t noticeably slower than Nova.
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#416Earlier quoted context omitted.
To me, the quote and what you put after came as a big surprise - I was ready to nod in agreement as you recognize this as a sad story about the platform. The last time I was working on a text editor (KDE's Kate) and found a bug in the text layout engine it was written against (Qt's), I wrote a patch, submitted it upstream and it made everyone else's apps better, too. I can't imagine the world of hurt, discomfort and…
>I can't imagine the world of hurt, discomfort and frustration of developing against a lib set I can't read source code of or improve. Thank you . It boggles the mind that anyone who can write code would ever use a closed source operating system.
Oh, the prejudice!
I like developing on Windows. Especially since the programs I write are run only on Windows. That's what the specific trillion dollar industry my employer serves uses mostly on desktop.
I don't want to tweak the platform. I want to concentrate on the code I write. I could be equally productive on OS X or Linux, but frankly, I don't care. They are all interchangeable computational substrates for me. As long as you can write any program on them, that is...
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#417Earlier quoted context omitted.
At the same price point in the professional space, of course. Lenovo X series and System76 have solid touchpads- and have for years.
As long as PC laptops continue to use that terrible Synaptics touchpad system, they will always be inferior. Anybody I've seen who claims any PC touchpad matches a Mac doesn't know what they are talking about. And I say this as a user of both but mostly PC.
I had a 2016 macbook and an HP Spectre 360. The touchpads were comparable. On the other hand, the macOS part of the macbook was pretty terrible.
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#418Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do the Windows based laptops have a similar touchpad like the Mac which just works, last time I checked they did not.
Macs, with their amazing touchpads, are (at least for the moment and the last ten years or so) general purpose computers that can run pretty much every widely available open source operating system. This is a false dichotomy. From GP: > use a closed source operating system That's not "Windows".
> that can run pretty much every widely available open source operating system.
That's just not true, though. Here's a git repo listing what works and doesn't work in Linux for all of the macbook pro models since 13,1 (released in 2016): https://github.com/Dunedan/mbp-2016-linux
You'll notice that power management (suspend/resume) doesn't work for any model, wifi only works for a few select models, and support for audio is pretty spotty. If you buy Mac hardware, you're pretty much locked into MacOS if you want to have a reasonably acceptable experience.
BSD support is much, much, much worse--it basically doesn't work at all for any relatively recent model.
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#419I've been using the beta version of Nova for a few weeks now and I've almost used my trial period for the 1.0. As a TypeScript developer, if someone made me choose between paying $99 for the actually-free VS Code, or buy Nova, I would by VS Code without hesitation. Before it began getting long in the tooth I was a big Coda fan. On the whole I like VS Code but I do suffer the occasional runaway process so I am open-mi…
> I genuinely think it'll be years before they can charge for this with a straight face. Well, I payed for it a few days ago, and I don’t remember seeing any crooked faces. I very much enjoy it so far. Considering the scope of the project and the high quality of the design in every nook and cranny of the app, I think it’s a bit of a miracle that something like it even exists. Not even Apple makes Mac apps of this cal…
If it’s just a few hiccups why not leave it in the oven for another month before charging?
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#420Earlier quoted context omitted.
>I can't imagine the world of hurt, discomfort and frustration of developing against a lib set I can't read source code of or improve. Thank you . It boggles the mind that anyone who can write code would ever use a closed source operating system.
Oh, the prejudice! I like developing on Windows. Especially since the programs I write are run only on Windows. That's what the specific trillion dollar industry my employer serves uses mostly on desktop. I don't want to tweak the platform. I want to concentrate on the code I write. I could be equally productive on OS X or Linux, but frankly, I don't care . They are all interchangeable computational substrates for me…
It's almost as if none of the replies read Drew's comment. Drew is talking about developing an editor for a closed source system and dealing with interfaces that break and then are hard to change, unlike open source systems that receive patches. It has nothing to do with "tweak[ing] the platform." Fixing a bug (which upstream would do, not you) is not tweaking, a bug is unintended behavior.