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Re: Nova by Panic

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Post by pseudalopex »

chrysoprace wrote: post #322
marc wrote: post #294

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not? Most developers seem to work on one platform anyway. It’s time someone built a good macOS-native editor. There are already plenty of non-native solutions out there.

Platform exclusivity should be a thing of the past, especially as technology to make cross-platform apps has become so accessible. For me the app becomes practically useless as soon as it's only on one platform as I frequently switch between Linux and Windows. The developers in my team work on a mix of MacOS, Linux, and Windows. In the face of VSC, a MacOS-exclusive app simply does not compete.

They already had a similar app. They probably know something about the target market.

Re: Nova by Panic

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

CharlesW wrote: post #346
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #75

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The company itself would likely have become part of Apple if not for one bit of unlucky timing. Apple wanted to turn Panic's Mac OS 9 music player, Audion, into iTunes. https://www.panic.com/extras/audionstory/

> Apple wanted to turn Panic's Mac OS 9 music player, Audion, into iTunes. I definitely wanted to! (I'm the Charles in the story.)

That’s so cool that you’re here! Thanks for popping in!

Re: Nova by Panic

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Post by etaioinshrdlu »

liquidise wrote: post #318
etaioinshrdlu wrote: post #87

I don't mean to complain about Nova, but I don't think being platform-specific is something to be applauded (in itself). It's like making your webapp only for Chrome -- that's not a feature, per-se.

Platform specificity typically comes with native performance and, in the case of Panic, a UI that closely follows OSX conventions. For some (many?) these are meaningful value-adds.

But isn't it better to be native on multiple platforms? Like Chrome itself, or Photoshop, or Sublime Text, and many others?

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Post by LeoNatan25 »

zapzupnz wrote: post #367
LeoNatan25 wrote: post #356

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Even if NSView-backed, custom views that replace basic functionality aren’t really native to me. Here, the entire window frame, all widgets, etc. are not native. It looks, to me, like an Electron or RN “app”.

> Custom views that replace basic functionality The only custom controls I see are the tabs, tab bar, and a few modals (like when opening a new tab), and a handful of buttons and segmented controls in the sidebar. Everything else is native, unmodified Cocoa controls: NSWindow, preference window and its contained controls, the sidebar, etc. I actually am a bit curious about the decision to have those NSButtons with cu…

Electron “apps” don’t have much of a choice; they can’t even add toolbar items. This is why it puzzles me why a Cocoa app would choose a unique look. I am just not a fan. Regarding theme frame, it looks like a different gradient to me. It certainly isn’t how it looks like Bug Sir.

Re: Nova by Panic

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Post by 1986 »

FullyFunctional wrote: post #99
spiralganglion wrote: post #73

I see a lot of folks here comparing this to VS Code and asking "Why would I use this instead?" — I am exactly on the opposite side of that equation. Why would I use VS Code when I can use this? I've been using Atom for most of the decade (plus a bit of Sublime, and TextMate before), and I've loved being able to hack it to look and feel exactly how I want. There's a ton of custom CSS in my setup. Now, Atom is slow. Th…

I change platforms many times a day (macOS, Linux, occasionally Windows) and VS Code being cross platform is essential for my use of it. Being Mac-only is a complete deal-breaker.

How do you deal with the difference in common keyboard shortcuts / text selection with keyboard (i.e. option vs ctrl, command vs ctrl)? I also go back and forth between macOS and Linux and it always takes me 30 min to get the correct muscle memory back.

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Post by Mandatum »

forgotmypw17 wrote: post #136
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #75

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The company itself would likely have become part of Apple if not for one bit of unlucky timing. Apple wanted to turn Panic's Mac OS 9 music player, Audion, into iTunes. https://www.panic.com/extras/audionstory/

Rest in peace, SoundJam. Best music player on Mac before Apple transformed it into the iTunes atrocity. SoundJam's hierarchical playlist has yet to be replicated by any other music player to my knowledge.

> hierarchical playlist

Like playing music by albums, or artists and it would recursively play all of the music within those albums?

Re: Nova by Panic

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Post by forgotmypw17 »

Mandatum wrote: post #376
forgotmypw17 wrote: post #136

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Rest in peace, SoundJam. Best music player on Mac before Apple transformed it into the iTunes atrocity. SoundJam's hierarchical playlist has yet to be replicated by any other music player to my knowledge.

> hierarchical playlist Like playing music by albums, or artists and it would recursively play all of the music within those albums?

You could have a playlist with folders, which you could collapse, expand, nest, etc.

It would then be played in order, yes, recursing through all the layers.

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Post by TwoBit »

MacsHeadroom wrote: post #357
sumedh wrote: post #345

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Do the Windows based laptops have a similar touchpad like the Mac which just works, last time I checked they did not.

At the same price point in the professional space, of course. Lenovo X series and System76 have solid touchpads- and have for years.

As long as PC laptops continue to use that terrible Synaptics touchpad system, they will always be inferior. Anybody I've seen who claims any PC touchpad matches a Mac doesn't know what they are talking about. And I say this as a user of both but mostly PC.

Re: Nova by Panic

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Post by the_lucifer »

m1keil wrote: post #348

As much as I would like to use this, the lack of cross platform support is a big no go for me. The same way I became 1Password customer _after_ they introduced support for Windows and Android (which I need). It looks like a wonderful product for someone who is dead set locked into Apple eco system.

Well, to be honest Panic have been Mac exclusive developers for upwards of 20 years now. I don’t see things changing anytime soon.
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