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Re: Nova by Panic

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Post by ghego1 »

perardi wrote: post #66
criddell wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's for people that want their text editor to feel like a Mac app. VS Code is great, but it doesn't feel very Apple-y.

Oh I get that’s the market, I just hope said market is large enough for them.

Considering that for iOS/mac/apple platforms devs will probably chose xcode, and given the premium one has to pay for mac computers these days (justified or not, I'm not saying either), I fear the answer is no.

Most devs that do _not_ make native apple apps (e.g. web devs) do not need a Mac, so the market of devs that do not use xcode, that prefer a Mac and that are willing to pay for a proprietary solution, over other proprietary solutions, is likely not that big.

Re: Nova by Panic

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Post by mattdeboard »

ildon wrote: post #104
SirHound wrote: post #11

I've been using the beta version of Nova for a few weeks now and I've almost used my trial period for the 1.0. As a TypeScript developer, if someone made me choose between paying $99 for the actually-free VS Code, or buy Nova, I would by VS Code without hesitation. Before it began getting long in the tooth I was a big Coda fan. On the whole I like VS Code but I do suffer the occasional runaway process so I am open-mi…

> I'm sure there's a VSC plugin for that This part of your comments nails 100% why, for me (web developer, 90% in typescript these days), it's nearly impossible to justify paying for an IDE. Visual Studio code has almost everything that I need, and what it's not baked in, is easily done with a plug-in, which in the worst case I can write myself. But that's really a worst case scenario, since to this date it has never…

I used Emacs for 10 years. When I started writing JS almost exclusively at my current job, I switched finally to VSCode (albeit with emacs keybindings).

The plugin/extension experience between emacs and vscode is, of course, almost an apples to oranges comparison. But VSCode is much better in that regard in my opinion.

I want yak-free IDE. After ten years my Emacs config is a herd of beautifully shaved yaks. VSCode is yak-free, for me, right now.

Re: Nova by Panic

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Post by madeofpalk »

ildon wrote: post #104
SirHound wrote: post #11

I've been using the beta version of Nova for a few weeks now and I've almost used my trial period for the 1.0. As a TypeScript developer, if someone made me choose between paying $99 for the actually-free VS Code, or buy Nova, I would by VS Code without hesitation. Before it began getting long in the tooth I was a big Coda fan. On the whole I like VS Code but I do suffer the occasional runaway process so I am open-mi…

> I'm sure there's a VSC plugin for that This part of your comments nails 100% why, for me (web developer, 90% in typescript these days), it's nearly impossible to justify paying for an IDE. Visual Studio code has almost everything that I need, and what it's not baked in, is easily done with a plug-in, which in the worst case I can write myself. But that's really a worst case scenario, since to this date it has never…

In saying that, it's astonishing how much the the smart IDE features are better in Visual Studio/C# compared to VSCode/Typescript.

The text editor in VSCode is better than VS (multi cursor support isnt great in VS). I would love to see VSCode get the smart refactor features from Visual Studio, working with Typescript.

Re: Nova by Panic

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Post by avery42 »

hibbelig wrote: post #82
esaym wrote: post #24

Man I'm still vim only. I've tried these giant IDE apps, but just can't wing it.

I converted to IDEs when I was working on a humonguous enterprise Java application with thousands of classes, all with similar methods with slightly different signatures. Also, because of the strong typing, the IDE knows which method is called where, and could thus support refactoring really well. So if I wanted to change the name of the "save" method in one tree of 87 derived classes, but not the other 532 classes t…

It depends on the language, but this works great for me in Neovim, using coc.nvim and the language server for whatever language I'm working on.

Re: Nova by Panic

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Post by ckrailo »

SirHound wrote: post #11

I've been using the beta version of Nova for a few weeks now and I've almost used my trial period for the 1.0. As a TypeScript developer, if someone made me choose between paying $99 for the actually-free VS Code, or buy Nova, I would by VS Code without hesitation. Before it began getting long in the tooth I was a big Coda fan. On the whole I like VS Code but I do suffer the occasional runaway process so I am open-mi…

> I like the default rainbow indentation, though I'm sure there's a VSC plugin for that.

I've enjoyed it for years now! https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=oderwat....

Re: Nova by Panic

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Post by AJRF »

I am so confused why they didn't put efforts into making this an iPad app. There is a market for something like this that developers are crying out for, but on mac why would anyone use this over VSCode (and pay $99 for the privilege?)

Re: Nova by Panic

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Post by copperx »

ildon wrote: post #104
SirHound wrote: post #11

I've been using the beta version of Nova for a few weeks now and I've almost used my trial period for the 1.0. As a TypeScript developer, if someone made me choose between paying $99 for the actually-free VS Code, or buy Nova, I would by VS Code without hesitation. Before it began getting long in the tooth I was a big Coda fan. On the whole I like VS Code but I do suffer the occasional runaway process so I am open-mi…

> I'm sure there's a VSC plugin for that This part of your comments nails 100% why, for me (web developer, 90% in typescript these days), it's nearly impossible to justify paying for an IDE. Visual Studio code has almost everything that I need, and what it's not baked in, is easily done with a plug-in, which in the worst case I can write myself. But that's really a worst case scenario, since to this date it has never…

I almost agree; but in my experience, JetBrains IDEs are worth every cent. I am more productive on them than in Visual Studio Code, even for "simple" tasks, like raw HTML/CSS/JS editing.

Re: Nova by Panic

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Post by ziftface »

xnz8 wrote: post #77
qppo wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

XCode was a motivating factor in my purchase of JetBrains products, specifically CLion.

New thing this year, but VSCode + with Apple's SourceKit LSP extension [1] has been working surprisingly well for me. Glad to have more alternatives to Xcode. Have been using SPM's "swift build" + some copy commands to create a fully functional signable bundle, no need even for an .xcodeproj. [1] https://nshipster.com/vscode/

I'm curious about this. Could you do iOS app development this way? Or at least native Mac development using cocoa like you could in xcode?
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