I see a lot of real estate dedicated to things I don't care that much about when I'm writing code. I'm probably not the target audience for this. I'm much too happy with Emacs.
It looks pretty configurable. What parts weren't you able to hide?
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#32I love native Mac apps, I love Panic…but I’m not sure what this gets me over Visual Studio Code, besides a Preferences pane that isn’t inscrutable. I’m not sure there’s enough of a market on the Mac for another commercial code editor, as we already have BBEdit for hard-core text wrangling. (And obviously all the open-source options.)
I think it's for people that want their text editor to feel like a Mac app. VS Code is great, but it doesn't feel very Apple-y.
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#33Looks like a more beautiful version of Sublime but macOS exclusive.
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#34The hover effect on the CTA is amazing.
Different worlds. I would have called it the download button. By chance are you in the marketing world?
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#35Edit: I think my performance with the background is a super niche one. It runs fine in Microsoft Edge on my Windows install on a Macbook Pro 2015, but not on Chrome. The animation is really cool especially that onscroll effect!
Buttery smooth on MBPRO 2019, Safari.
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#36It's strange that Nova would target web tech as their top priority, and not Swift. If you're Mac-exclusive, why not advertise top-class support for Apple ecosystem app development? Since Nova is prioritizing web workflows, VSC is the elephant in the room and a very deadly competitor. It's free and open source, it's available on Windows, MacOS, Linux, and it can also be ported to the web. And it's Insanely popular and…
Going for Swift means competing with XCode, which wouldn't make sense as Swift is generally used along with the entire iOS/macOS Dev tools (Simulators, UI Builders, Device Manager etc). Not a wise thing to do.
It's the same for VSCode and JS/TS support though. Fighting against a fully featured, free, open-source and well-established product just on the basis of speed is going to be an uphill battle.
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#37I really like their pricing structure here. If you want updates forever, it's functionally a subscription (which makes sense - constant updates require constant dev work). The key difference is that if you stop paying, you keep everything you've paid for previously (the app and all past updates). That's a _great_ way to do a subscription.
Lots of audio software has a similar model, Bitwig and Reaper come to mind.
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#38It's strange that Nova would target web tech as their top priority, and not Swift. If you're Mac-exclusive, why not advertise top-class support for Apple ecosystem app development? Since Nova is prioritizing web workflows, VSC is the elephant in the room and a very deadly competitor. It's free and open source, it's available on Windows, MacOS, Linux, and it can also be ported to the web. And it's Insanely popular and…
Going for Swift means competing with XCode, which wouldn't make sense as Swift is generally used along with the entire iOS/macOS Dev tools (Simulators, UI Builders, Device Manager etc). Not a wise thing to do.
XCode was a motivating factor in my purchase of JetBrains products, specifically CLion.
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#39I've been using the beta version of Nova for a few weeks now and I've almost used my trial period for the 1.0. As a TypeScript developer, if someone made me choose between paying $99 for the actually-free VS Code, or buy Nova, I would by VS Code without hesitation. Before it began getting long in the tooth I was a big Coda fan. On the whole I like VS Code but I do suffer the occasional runaway process so I am open-mi…
If I were them, I think I would try really hard to build a low-effort conversion process for VSCode extensions. If they can do that in such a way that the top XXX VSCode extensions could be used with a good experience in Nova and fix the couple of non-plugin gripes you mention, I think they've probably bested the VSCode experience for enough people to make it profitable.
I am not sure if I am pessimistic enough to call that "years" once they've got that migration path planned. If they're not planning something like it, though, then I think I agree with you.
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#40I feel if a domain has a very well evolving, competitive open source offering (VS Code), it's really hard to sell something else if the feature difference isn't big. Perhaps they should have started by targeting something other than web development.
It can also be a great motivator. The new app has a lot to do and knows where to make improvements. The existing app has then one up them to stay relevant. Adobe Illustrator and Macromedia Freehand used to do this with each release. Now you see it between platforms like FB/Insta/TikTok/Twitter etc.