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Re: Nova by Panic

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Post by hoistbypetard »

hibbelig wrote: post #68
TylerE wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

intellij is functionally the same. Buying a subscription gets you one year updates, and then whatever that last version is remains functional forever.

As I understand it, the IntelliJ version you can keep using forever is the one from the beginning of the subscription. So while the subscription was valid, you got upgrades, and then if you don't renew, you have to downgrade. It's their way of nudging customers to keep paying. It's working for me.

Every 12 months you pay it bumps forward by 12 months. This is true whether you pay monthly or annually or every 3 years.

https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/articles/207240845-What...

Re: Nova by Panic

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Post by mamcx »

(In case that somebody of panic read this)

For different reasons, I use VS Code (pretty, JS stuff), Sublime (fast), IntelliJ(rust) and a SQL Tool(sql!) at the same time.

I like the idea of coda of being more IDEish with transmission and ssh built-in, but one thing that no editor I have use is good at, is to see logs, sql and CVS/JSON data.

In the case of CVS/json, I kill for a way to turn it in auto-datatable with built-in search (do a lot of tabular data manipulation).

So, then after use sublime to load stuff, need ALSO to open excel OR numbers (which one open this CVS file is a gamble) do the edits there, then go back....

Re: Nova by Panic

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Post by cosmotic »

TylerE wrote: post #30
xavdid wrote: post #22

I really like their pricing structure here. If you want updates forever, it's functionally a subscription (which makes sense - constant updates require constant dev work). The key difference is that if you stop paying, you keep everything you've paid for previously (the app and all past updates). That's a _great_ way to do a subscription.

intellij is functionally the same. Buying a subscription gets you one year updates, and then whatever that last version is remains functional forever.

It's not that simple or as simple as the other replies.

https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/articles/207240845-What...

Re: Nova by Panic

#95

Post by Hoasi »

Long-awaited. Enjoyed Coda for a long time, then switched to Atom. It looks like a polished Atom version, and Nova is likely going to replace Atom for me.

Re: Nova by Panic

#97

Post by cosmotic »

mamcx wrote: post #92

(In case that somebody of panic read this) For different reasons, I use VS Code (pretty, JS stuff), Sublime (fast), IntelliJ(rust) and a SQL Tool(sql!) at the same time. I like the idea of coda of being more IDEish with transmission and ssh built-in, but one thing that no editor I have use is good at, is to see logs, sql and CVS/JSON data. In the case of CVS/json, I kill for a way to turn it in auto-datatable with bu…

IDEA has excellent log support, SQL, and CVS/JSON support including loading as a table with search.

Re: Nova by Panic

#98

Post by brundolf »

SirHound wrote: post #11

I've been using the beta version of Nova for a few weeks now and I've almost used my trial period for the 1.0. As a TypeScript developer, if someone made me choose between paying $99 for the actually-free VS Code, or buy Nova, I would by VS Code without hesitation. Before it began getting long in the tooth I was a big Coda fan. On the whole I like VS Code but I do suffer the occasional runaway process so I am open-mi…

That's a shame. I love the vibe of this project and the VSCode monoculture gives me a vague sense of unease, but sadly it's really hard to compete with a tech giant that's putting all their effort into a free product.

Re: Nova by Panic

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Post by FullyFunctional »

spiralganglion wrote: post #73

I see a lot of folks here comparing this to VS Code and asking "Why would I use this instead?" — I am exactly on the opposite side of that equation. Why would I use VS Code when I can use this? I've been using Atom for most of the decade (plus a bit of Sublime, and TextMate before), and I've loved being able to hack it to look and feel exactly how I want. There's a ton of custom CSS in my setup. Now, Atom is slow. Th…

I change platforms many times a day (macOS, Linux, occasionally Windows) and VS Code being cross platform is essential for my use of it. Being Mac-only is a complete deal-breaker.

Re: Nova by Panic

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Post by orf »

rictic wrote: post #67
hoistbypetard wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I were them, I think I would try really hard to build a low-effort conversion process for VSCode extensions. If they can do that in such a way that the top XXX VSCode extensions could be used with a good experience in Nova and fix the couple of non-plugin gripes you mention, I think they've probably bested the VSCode experience for enough people to make it profitable. I am not sure if I am pessimistic enough to ca…

Microsoft has opened the protocol with which most extensions are written: https://microsoft.github.io/language-server-protocol/ It's a really high quality protocol, and supporting it gets you 95% of the way to supporting dozens of languages (only remaining work is coordinating launching the language server and connecting it to the editor, usually <100 lines of code).

LSP isn’t “most plugins” though. There are tens of thousands of useful plugins, and only a tiny subset of those add support for new languages.
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