Panic seems like it would be a cool company to work for. I'm not a Mac guy, so this particular product doesn't interest me, but I've had my eye on the Playdate.
They tease it through the text editor environments screenshotted in the Nova page!
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#62Edit: I think my performance with the background is a super niche one. It runs fine in Microsoft Edge on my Windows install on a Macbook Pro 2015, but not on Chrome. The animation is really cool especially that onscroll effect!
Smooth on my 2015 MBP in Safari.
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#63Delighted that it includes Perl support!
(full list: CoffeeScript, CSS, Diff, ERB, Haml, HTML, INI, JavaScript, JSON, JSX, Less, Lua, Markdown, Perl, PHP, Python, Ruby, Sass, SCSS, Smarty, SQL, TSX, TypeScript, XML, and YAML)
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#64> It's new, hyper-fast, and flexible, with all the features you want: [...] a Minimap Do people actually find the Minimap useful for coding? If so, how? And why is it better/different than just a scrollbar, or searching? I've always thought of Minimaps as a thing that seems like it should be adding something to the interface, but actually isn't at all. Seems like pointless eye-candy, to me. What am I missing?
I scan it for different colors in VS Code quite often. Oops, something red down there. Or quick scan to see where the various colored things that represent git diffs are (red for deleted, green for new, blue for changed).
But as you said, can get the same in the scroll bar.
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#65The hover effect on the CTA is amazing.
Indeed. Great performance too (much more CPU efficient on Safari than Chrome for some reason).
Also: P3 colors all over :) the Nova logo burns my eyes nicely on the Ultrafine 5K's :) color(display-p3 1 .012 .29 / 1) learn something new every day.
The site reminds me of early Panic work which was also pushing the web envelope forward in tiny attentive details.
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#66I love native Mac apps, I love Panic…but I’m not sure what this gets me over Visual Studio Code, besides a Preferences pane that isn’t inscrutable. I’m not sure there’s enough of a market on the Mac for another commercial code editor, as we already have BBEdit for hard-core text wrangling. (And obviously all the open-source options.)
I think it's for people that want their text editor to feel like a Mac app. VS Code is great, but it doesn't feel very Apple-y.
Oh I get that’s the market, I just hope said market is large enough for them.
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#67I've been using the beta version of Nova for a few weeks now and I've almost used my trial period for the 1.0. As a TypeScript developer, if someone made me choose between paying $99 for the actually-free VS Code, or buy Nova, I would by VS Code without hesitation. Before it began getting long in the tooth I was a big Coda fan. On the whole I like VS Code but I do suffer the occasional runaway process so I am open-mi…
If I were them, I think I would try really hard to build a low-effort conversion process for VSCode extensions. If they can do that in such a way that the top XXX VSCode extensions could be used with a good experience in Nova and fix the couple of non-plugin gripes you mention, I think they've probably bested the VSCode experience for enough people to make it profitable. I am not sure if I am pessimistic enough to ca…
Microsoft has opened the protocol with which most extensions are written: https://microsoft.github.io/language-server-protocol/
It's a really high quality protocol, and supporting it gets you 95% of the way to supporting dozens of languages (only remaining work is coordinating launching the language server and connecting it to the editor, usually <100 lines of code).
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#68I really like their pricing structure here. If you want updates forever, it's functionally a subscription (which makes sense - constant updates require constant dev work). The key difference is that if you stop paying, you keep everything you've paid for previously (the app and all past updates). That's a _great_ way to do a subscription.
intellij is functionally the same. Buying a subscription gets you one year updates, and then whatever that last version is remains functional forever.
As I understand it, the IntelliJ version you can keep using forever is the one from the beginning of the subscription.
So while the subscription was valid, you got upgrades, and then if you don't renew, you have to downgrade. It's their way of nudging customers to keep paying. It's working for me.
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#69Edit: I think my performance with the background is a super niche one. It runs fine in Microsoft Edge on my Windows install on a Macbook Pro 2015, but not on Chrome. The animation is really cool especially that onscroll effect!
Maybe you have a spec of dust under one of the keys on your keyboard that is causing the site to think you are trying to do something?
I don't think so. I've never had any site, even ones that use complex animations like Stripe's site bring my machine to a crawl like this. I'm pretty confident it's the Canvas animation causing this. I disabled JS and the site runs fine.
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#70I really like their pricing structure here. If you want updates forever, it's functionally a subscription (which makes sense - constant updates require constant dev work). The key difference is that if you stop paying, you keep everything you've paid for previously (the app and all past updates). That's a _great_ way to do a subscription.
Isn't that what update pricing used to be?