Just like many other industries, Microsoft also had a head start in online fitness way before anyone else even thought about it. But just like many other lost bets, they also lose it. Not sure why they killed it. If you are wondering what is it then search - Xbox fitness
Apple Fitness+
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It doesn’t matter that it’s ‘more than apple’ or if some parts are open source. Android as most people understand it is not open source. Google promised an open alternative and have simply reneged on that promise.
It matters more than you think. No one expected Google to open source all their apps. Android has plenty of open source apps.
How does it matter?
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The claim that Android is open source has long been false. Yes, there is AOSP, but that’s only a small part of what constitutes an OS these days. Here’s a link to a post showing how dismal things are: https://bitcannon.net/post/finding-an-alternative-to-ios/
Does that mean that Linux needs to have Gnome to be considered an OS?
Why would it?
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i just watched the fitness+ segment. it was so targeted at upper/upper-middle class (white) people, it wasn't even funny (despite, as always, featuring a fair diversity of people). most americans simply don't have the time and mental space to carve out big chunks of time (not to mention living space) to devote $10/mo and a commitment to multiple apple devices that it requires. it's myopic, to say the least. even thou…
Apple is a luxury brand. The fact they have such a market share is an aberration not the norm. The ex-ceo of Burberry works at Apple. They are for rich folks, 1500 for a phone remember! Their incredible success has been in convincing non-rich folks their product is worth stretching their finances to get a new one as often as they can. Every product line is marketed as a luxury product. It’s not surprising that their…
> The ex-ceo of Burberry works at Apple.
If you're talking about Angela Ahrendts, she left last year.
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#325> For usage with iPad, Fitness+ requires iPad Pro, iPad (5th generation or later), iPad mini 4 or later, iPad Air 2, or iPad Air (3rd generation). Fitness+ is supported on Apple TV 4K and Apple TV HD. So if you don't have an Apple TV, you can't watch on a TV? That's a non starter for me (Peloton customer), seems a bit rubbish to be exercising in my living room and not using the TV to display the class.
HDMI?
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No, I don't use the bike or tread, I just stream their exercise classes. I guess I could convert from my phone to HDMI, but Peloton works in the browser and that's a great deal easier. If I had bought a $2000 bike that only works with Peloton then I doubt I’d even be looking at Fitness+ :)
I have to imagine the percentage of people that can, let alone will, use a web browser attached to their TV is <1%. I don't blame Apple for not putting effort into it.
I don't know about that; I bought an HDMI cable and showed my 62 year old mother how to connect it to her laptop, drag the browser over to the TV, and then hit the "full screen" button, and she's been doing it ever since. This is the same person who became convinced her laptop no longer had Windows Media Player installed because she accidentally deleted the icon from her desktop.
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Are nude photos not permitted on iCloud? With the ubiquity of iPhones, it's difficult to believe iCloud isn't filled with nude photos.
They are permitted. My girlfriend and I are often long distance and we share an album. I didn’t know Microsoft had such bogus restrictions.
The anecdotal evidence is helpful, but it doesn't fully answer the question that GP really wanted answered: Is it Apple's policy to allow nude photos in iCloud?
Apple is known to start enforcing broad rules in new ways without notice. Unless they've made a positive statement confirming that such photos are allowed (I don't know, seems unlikely), I would assume that it's possible for Apple to turn on a nudity classification ML on everyone's photos tomorrow and ban anyone that matches just like Microsoft. I also think that Apple seems to respect user privacy / rights better than Microsoft (though not so much developers). So you might say it's unlikely, but my point is that it's possible; act accordingly. Is it your personal account and you have a backup and you don't think the risk is worth the hassle? Sure, do whatever you want. But is this Apple account even associated with the developer account of an app that makes your living? I would think twice.
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#328$150 Apple TV HD
$200 Apple Watch Series 3
So it's $350 + $10/mo. Do they plan to compete with Mirror ($1500 + $42/mo) and Peloton ($1900 + $13/mo)?
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$500 stationary bikes are crap. Apple Fitness is only slightly cheaper than Peloton standalone - $10 vs $13 - so I don't think that would be a factor for many people. The main drive of Peloton if you aren't buying their bike is the instructors and high quality classes - I struggle to imagine many people would care more about watch integration than class quality, and I don't think Apple will be able to win out on the…
You are forgetting families. Peloton is $12 a month, but the workouts are tied to one account - so your wife's workout gets synced to your apple watch. Also Apple is offering yearly pricing that works out to $6.67/mo...and then there is the bundle which if you are in the ecosystem already essentially makes it a free service...
> and then there is the bundle which if you are in the ecosystem already essentially makes it a free service...
This is key. How many people would subscribe to Prime TV if they didn’t already have a Prime membership. My guess is not many. Luckily for Netflix people consume enough that it’s not really a killer. But with fitness you probably only need a single provider. That said, I’ve lost confidence in apple’s ability to execute, but this seems like a race they could easily dominate if done right.
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#330Just like Google, Apple is trying to making money from every possible opporturnity.