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At JPMorgan, productivity falls for younger employees at home
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#62Dimon kind of throws them under the bus, doesn't he: "Work output by younger employees was particularly affected on Mondays and Fridays, according to findings discussed by Chief Executive Office Jamie Dimon in a private meeting with Keefe, Bruyette & Woods analysts. That, along with worries that remote work is no substitute for organic interaction, are part of why the biggest U.S. bank is urging more workers to retur…
What kind of work are these junior employees doing that is this highly measurable?
I can't speak to what is being said now as I'm not really tracking any of it. I don't believe it's pure bullshit. It could be that people are just picking up bad habits. It could be stress and distractions from all the stuff that's swirling around now. It could be an exaggerated stance to signal to real estate in the affected markets that JPMC isn't packing up and getting out of town. Who knows. I will say that the technical infrastructure has been very good, due in part to long term investments in remote infrastructure for years now and it's pretty seamless switching from the office to remote.
I personally will quit before I go back full time to the chaos of high capacity office environments. I'm not built for it.
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#63This may be an unpopular opinion, but I honestly can't wait to get back to the office (or any other workspace that isn't my home). I really hate working at home. I don't have enough space or privacy, it becomes far more difficult to partition work and play when they occur in the same spaces / I find myself distracted more easily, and there is no one to socialize with when I'm sitting by myself every day. Could I reme…
I really my office, I don't have enough space or privacy, or even a window. At home I have a spacious desk with wide windows.
It's almost as if the problem is not office vs home but comfortable space vs shithole.
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#64This may be an unpopular opinion, but I honestly can't wait to get back to the office (or any other workspace that isn't my home). I really hate working at home. I don't have enough space or privacy, it becomes far more difficult to partition work and play when they occur in the same spaces / I find myself distracted more easily, and there is no one to socialize with when I'm sitting by myself every day. Could I reme…
> Could I remedy all of these problems with extra effort? Sure, but it's far easier for me to simply go to the office. This, exactly this. People adverse to self discipline are the ones that most want to go into the office, because its "the easy way". But people with discipline should have always, and should continue to be given the choice to work in the way that suits them the best, if you will, that is "easiest" fo…
> Diversity folks, or if you will, different strokes for different folks.
I agree but it sure sounds like you don't based on what you said a few sentences earlier.
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#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can you sign off from slack when you finish working for the day? That should be step one for getting a balance.
I don't use Slack anymore but I think there is a feature to specify your working hours so it will not notify you outside of those hours.
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#66This may be an unpopular opinion, but I honestly can't wait to get back to the office (or any other workspace that isn't my home). I really hate working at home. I don't have enough space or privacy, it becomes far more difficult to partition work and play when they occur in the same spaces / I find myself distracted more easily, and there is no one to socialize with when I'm sitting by myself every day. Could I reme…
> Could I remedy all of these problems with extra effort? Sure, but it's far easier for me to simply go to the office. This, exactly this. People adverse to self discipline are the ones that most want to go into the office, because its "the easy way". But people with discipline should have always, and should continue to be given the choice to work in the way that suits them the best, if you will, that is "easiest" fo…
So basically "people who prefer what you don't prefer are lesser in some way" but with some extra words for obfuscation because you can't just come out sand say that in polite conversation?
People have preferences. If you're gonna try and pretend that one is universally better or superior then I hope that attitude causes big problems for you.
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#67Younger employees probably have less space. Apartment/house shares, etc. I've known some who are working on their bed. This isn't healthy nor is it likely to be conducive to productivity.
Not to minimize the struggles of suburban parents, but I do feel they might be divorced from what single urban life is like right now. As a "younger" (30 year old) tech employee, in addition to living in a cramped space with 3 roommates in SF with no privacy, I have to work in a dining room because my bedroom has very thin walls. I also have to do cook and clean way more often, when I previously used to get 3 meals a…
Most of my friends, including myself, have taken advantage of the current WFH situation to find much better accommodations for themselves outside of SF.
Obviously not an option for everyone, but for those that have it I would definitely pursue it.
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#68This may be an unpopular opinion, but I honestly can't wait to get back to the office (or any other workspace that isn't my home). I really hate working at home. I don't have enough space or privacy, it becomes far more difficult to partition work and play when they occur in the same spaces / I find myself distracted more easily, and there is no one to socialize with when I'm sitting by myself every day. Could I reme…
I've officially reached zero productivity today. I'm sick of being stuck in my tiny condo with the noise from neighbors and zero work/life balance. The constant streams of asks on Slack that wake me up in the morning and keep me up at night. I'm making more in the stock market than my job.
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#69I’m inclined to believe he’s afraid of change and is abusing his power to push his feelings-based agenda. To me, this goes one of two ways. One, he loses a huge swath of young workers that apply to different companies instead and his company folds. Two, he still loses a huge swath of young workers who don’t apply but his feelings turn out to be true and the company comes out stronger. Either way, we won’t know until…
You seem to be operating under the assumption that all young employees want to work from home. I'm a young person who can't wait to go back to the office, and I know I'm not the only one. WFH is a much better setup for people who have two kids and a dog, not single people in small studio apartments.
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#70Younger employees probably have less space. Apartment/house shares, etc. I've known some who are working on their bed. This isn't healthy nor is it likely to be conducive to productivity.
Not to minimize the struggles of suburban parents, but I do feel they might be divorced from what single urban life is like right now. As a "younger" (30 year old) tech employee, in addition to living in a cramped space with 3 roommates in SF with no privacy, I have to work in a dining room because my bedroom has very thin walls. I also have to do cook and clean way more often, when I previously used to get 3 meals a…