Nothing except Larry Elison being able to say "Heeeyyy... How do you do, fellow kids?"
Oracle’s TikTok deal accomplishes nothing
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#32As others have pointed out this deal is absurd. Its not about user data its about manipulation of the US populous through unknown algos by the Chinese Communist Party. They're all over western social media as well with cells and bots. Both things should be dealt with.
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#33It actually accomplishes the 1-2 goals of the operation:
* Political win for Trump being "hard on China"
* Paycheck for Trump's donor Ellison
Let's not pretend that there was any legitimate national security threat coming from the funny video app. That was and is a yellow peril fantasy from the outset.
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#34Used the app for a few days, and realized that keeping TikTok out of the hands of US tech companies is best for the users. 1. Registration not needed - without nagging. First thing Microsoft would have done is to require signup to use. 2. (Most important) copyright hunters will have a harder time ruining the experience. 3. Includes the ability to DOWNLOAD videos! (this blows my mind. I mean, consider the cat and mous…
Yeah. This kind of interface problem is absolutely mind blowing to me. iOS especially always feels almost dumb enough to be unusable to me in comparison with my computer. For example, the other day I just wanted to download an Mp3 to my phone so I'd be able to play it at night with the cellular network turned off. It ended up taking almost an hour to figure out. Downloading a file to the filesystem is nigh impossible…
Try using a mp3 or whatever as a ringtone or alarm tone. Laughs We don't do that around here. I'm not even sure you can buy extra ringtones from the app store. Think different. And with different I mean e unison.
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#35It actually accomplishes the 1-2 goals of the operation: * Political win for Trump being "hard on China" * Paycheck for Trump's donor Ellison Let's not pretend that there was any legitimate national security threat coming from the funny video app. That was and is a yellow peril fantasy from the outset.
You’re very wrong on the security threat. I think people just like to dismiss anything if Trump also said it. Nobody should be using TikTok and we have said this for a while.
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/ne...
https://techcrunch.com/2020/02/26/reddit-ceo-tiktok-is-funda...
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah. This kind of interface problem is absolutely mind blowing to me. iOS especially always feels almost dumb enough to be unusable to me in comparison with my computer. For example, the other day I just wanted to download an Mp3 to my phone so I'd be able to play it at night with the cellular network turned off. It ended up taking almost an hour to figure out. Downloading a file to the filesystem is nigh impossible…
Try using a mp3 or whatever as a ringtone or alarm tone. Laughs We don't do that around here. I'm not even sure you can buy extra ringtones from the app store. Think different. And with different I mean e unison.
You can definitely buy ringtones, you just have to remember that the iTunes music store exists first. I haven't bought anything new on there in over a decade, so I'm waking up to music from High School still.
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#37Is there anyone that comes out worse from the U.S. + China TikTok saga than Kevin Mayer? He left leading Disney's streaming division after being passed over for CEO to become Bytedance's COO and CEO of TikTok, only to leave three months later during the company's toughest time. Now we learn Bytedance isn't actually selling its operations to Oracle and the the most valuable startup in the world marches on to market do…
This might just save Bytedance/TikTok. Any word on when they will go public?
Their TikTok app sort of has first-mover-advantage in the new realm of AI-recommendation-engine that actually is worthwhile. Their AI algorithm is the key.
Netflix and YouTube uses the same algorithm for video recommendations, but to be honest, that implementation is not as relevant in adding more value to those companies.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
>The account-less app alone tracks way more than what microsoft could ever track with all their account systems. I'm using TikTok lite. TikTok only requested STORAGE permission when I wanted to save a video. That's all. Tubemate - one of those youtube apps requires: Read phone state and location permissions. Won't launch without it.
There are still a ton of things Android apps can use to track you without permission. [1] [1] https://www.ftc.gov/system/files/documents/public_events/141...
Those are big issues for Android. What about IOS? As far as i know there is no persistent ID an app can grab from the OS.
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#39It actually accomplishes the 1-2 goals of the operation: * Political win for Trump being "hard on China" * Paycheck for Trump's donor Ellison Let's not pretend that there was any legitimate national security threat coming from the funny video app. That was and is a yellow peril fantasy from the outset.
You’re very wrong on the security threat. I think people just like to dismiss anything if Trump also said it. Nobody should be using TikTok and we have said this for a while. https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/ne... https://techcrunch.com/2020/02/26/reddit-ceo-tiktok-is-funda...
One of your sources is literally just a competitor making baseless accusations.
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#40I don't understand why the Verge is framing this as likely to be approved. It seems like the Gov't. told Bytedance to divest from US Operations, Bytedance refused to divest and instead set up this trusted tech partner thing, which means that no IP will be change hands and control will still be maintained. This deal seems not to meet the requirements set out by the US Gov't. Have the goalposts been moved or will this…
It will be approved, the goal was to put it in a place where the US government (read: trump goons) could control and monitor it, and Oracle is such a place. Larry Ellison is a huge trump donor so there’s zero chance it gets held up.
So this is basically telling China:
Hey we know you're spying using TikTok. Share the tool you use to spy so we can see, too.
China said: OK fine but you can only spy on your own citizens. Plus we also still get to.
Is that right?