Oracle’s TikTok deal accomplishes nothing

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Post by FillardMillmore » Mon, Sep 14, 2020, 4:40 PM UTC

Oracle’s TikTok deal accomplishes nothing
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Post by carriganisms » Mon, Sep 14, 2020, 4:54 PM UTC

"That makes it less of a sale and more of a glorified hosting deal. It lets Trump say he’s solved the problem but doesn’t do much else."

This is exactly the first thing that popped into my mind when I read about the deal.

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Post by vezycash » Mon, Sep 14, 2020, 5:13 PM UTC

Used the app for a few days, and realized that keeping TikTok out of the hands of US tech companies is best for the users.

1. Registration not needed - without nagging. First thing Microsoft would have done is to require signup to use.

2. (Most important) copyright hunters will have a harder time ruining the experience.

3. Includes the ability to DOWNLOAD videos! (this blows my mind. I mean, consider the cat and mouse game google and others play to make video downloads difficult/impossible)

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Post by zwieback » Mon, Sep 14, 2020, 5:19 PM UTC

The current government being Ellison-friendly probably helps this deal over some other possible configurations.

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Post by Ericson2314 » Mon, Sep 14, 2020, 5:23 PM UTC

Wishful thinking, but I hope ByteDance could somehow make Lary Ellison miserable out of this. Now that would be Justice.

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Post by nine_zeros » Mon, Sep 14, 2020, 5:25 PM UTC

It does SOMETHING.

It paves the way to normalizing corruption from the highest level in America. This means businesses with US operations (US businesses as well as foreign businesses) will forever be aware of this corruption and try to curry favor with the highest levels. If they don't curry favor, they will find other ways or simply avoid the American market. This means America is now more like third world democracies than a real pioneer of freedom.

Thus, the deal accomplished something that forever scars business in the US.

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Post by Firebrand » Mon, Sep 14, 2020, 5:25 PM UTC

Is there anyone that comes out worse from the U.S. + China TikTok saga than Kevin Mayer?

He left leading Disney's streaming division after being passed over for CEO to become Bytedance's COO and CEO of TikTok, only to leave three months later during the company's toughest time.

Now we learn Bytedance isn't actually selling its operations to Oracle and the the most valuable startup in the world marches on to market dominance without him. Huge reputation hit.

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Post by Pokepokalypse » Mon, Sep 14, 2020, 5:28 PM UTC

nine_zeros wrote: post #6

It does SOMETHING. It paves the way to normalizing corruption from the highest level in America. This means businesses with US operations (US businesses as well as foreign businesses) will forever be aware of this corruption and try to curry favor with the highest levels. If they don't curry favor, they will find other ways or simply avoid the American market. This means America is now more like third world democraci…

Like Joker said; "it's about sending a message."

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Post by nikkwong » Mon, Sep 14, 2020, 5:29 PM UTC

vezycash wrote: post #3

Used the app for a few days, and realized that keeping TikTok out of the hands of US tech companies is best for the users. 1. Registration not needed - without nagging. First thing Microsoft would have done is to require signup to use. 2. (Most important) copyright hunters will have a harder time ruining the experience. 3. Includes the ability to DOWNLOAD videos! (this blows my mind. I mean, consider the cat and mous…

Yeah. This kind of interface problem is absolutely mind blowing to me. iOS especially always feels almost dumb enough to be unusable to me in comparison with my computer. For example, the other day I just wanted to download an Mp3 to my phone so I'd be able to play it at night with the cellular network turned off.

It ended up taking almost an hour to figure out. Downloading a file to the filesystem is nigh impossible on iOS, and there are no native apps which helped with the problem. I had to jump from questionable app to questionable app until one would let me "paste a youtube link in" which eventually worked; albeit, it still won't let me play my new song in the native music app! It feels like user hostility and it surprises me that this behavior doesn't drive more people wild.

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Post by cocktailpeanuts » Mon, Sep 14, 2020, 5:30 PM UTC

vezycash wrote: post #3

Used the app for a few days, and realized that keeping TikTok out of the hands of US tech companies is best for the users. 1. Registration not needed - without nagging. First thing Microsoft would have done is to require signup to use. 2. (Most important) copyright hunters will have a harder time ruining the experience. 3. Includes the ability to DOWNLOAD videos! (this blows my mind. I mean, consider the cat and mous…

> 1. Registration not needed - without nagging. First thing Microsoft would have done is to require signup to use.

The account-less app alone tracks way more than what microsoft could ever track with all their account systems.