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Freiburg: Germany's futuristic city set in a forest

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Re: Freiburg: Germany's futuristic city set in a forest

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Post by pelasaco »

e_proxus wrote: post #147
pelasaco wrote: post #98

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I can tell you that the kindergarten were my kids attended in Germany, they were against reusable diapers, because it generated more job to the the educators which were already overwhelmed.

That doesn’t prevent you from using them at home though.

we did it, even if because of that we increased astronomically our water usage and humidity in our apartment trying to dry them daily. Beside a new laundry machine because the diapers. But it didn't help us when we we were on the way, traveling (train or plains) or in kindergarten. So the solution isn't binary, and people saying "just do it", either didn't though the problem through or never had kids. Fun fact, once to fly for a 30 days trip, we brought a 20 kg luggage just with reusable diapers (2 kids)

Re: Freiburg: Germany's futuristic city set in a forest

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Post by M277 »

margo209320 wrote: post #144
dmos62 wrote: post #92

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It's a cultural thing. Some people can't imagine living wihout a car, others can't imagine using disposable diapers, others can't imagine not forcing women to wear a veil. Or, for example, is your trash production a private affair, or is it a communal responsibility, subject to scrutiny? If you're flexible you can set up your outlook however you think is best. And there are of course prevailing mindsets, depending on…

> not forcing women to wear a veil How the fuck does THAT fit with the other examples you gave? The word "force" in there should make it pretty clear that it's not ok or just a matter of opinion.

The point is that people have different outlooks and views, and you shouldn't force yours on them (or vice versa). Your list of what is wrong is not necessarily someone else's list of what is wrong. Similarly, your list of right is not necessarily someone else's list of what is right. For many of these people, it's not a matter of "force". They (including women) accept it as the normal.

(Disclaimer: I live in Egypt, which is a Muslim country. However, it's much less strict compared to the others.)

Re: Freiburg: Germany's futuristic city set in a forest

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Post by Melting_Harps »

_ph_ wrote: post #60
Melting_Harps wrote: post #35

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> wondering if it got worse - if they did manage to build more nuclear plants like French did (75% from nuclear) instead of closing them all down, maybe Germany will be able to heat their homes without CO2 emissions in winter. They don't need to build anymore, they just import it. I lived 30km away from Alsace, and despite us having a significant amount of solar on all of our buildings, as did most of the local commu…

So what was the reason for your house being cold other than the ill-timed rennovation? Germany is a net electricity exporter, we don't "depend" on French nuclear energy. But of course, Germany is part of an Eurpean grid, so depending on the load distribution and the weather, there is a lot of inporting on exporting, because eletricity is traded across long distances. While often there is a significant amount of elekt…

> So what was the reason for your house being cold other than the ill-timed rennovation?

I was there for my Biodynamic farming apprenticeship, and that was just what it was. It was fine, and I spent quite a bit of time there I enjoyed my time there and it taught me a lot how to cope with issues with older homes and it helped me learn to do repairs where needed.

> Germany is part of an Eurpean grid, so depending on the load distribution and the weather, there is a lot of inporting on exporting, because eletricity is traded across long distances.

I figured, but I was there not long after the phasing out period and solar was still being deployed, so much so I actually got to work on a few builds.

> Please stop spreading myths. Germany was an energy exporter for most of the last years and even to France in the last 5 years

Look at the years I listed, I was there 8 years ago not long after Fukushima. Was that still the case back then?

Re: Freiburg: Germany's futuristic city set in a forest

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Post by hdjdbtbgwjsn »

Fooloo wrote: post #74
hdjdbtbgwjsn wrote: post #59

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Even the Amish use real nappies rather than messing around with reusables. Real nappies are better for baby and toddler bums, easier for already stressed parents and more hygienic. Reusables result in massive energy and water waste, they are a health hazard if not washed properly (many manufacturers washing instructions are very inadequate. They must be washed at a minimum of 60°C whatever your manufacturer said), re…

Are you Procter and Gamble?? The argument for and against reusable is pretty much undecided. There also services which do the washing for you. And they are probably way more efficient than people washing at home in terms of energy used. Anyhow, real eco-parents go diaper-less as most parents in the world. Google split-pants, elimination communication! Compared to this letting children sitting in their own feces in re…

Hang on are you actually accusing me of astroturfing????

How is this post allowed to stand? How do I flag it?

Re: Freiburg: Germany's futuristic city set in a forest

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Post by Aperocky »

_ph_ wrote: post #56
Aperocky wrote: post #19

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Not just the city, Germany made the decision to shut down ALL of the nuclear power plants when Fukushima happened. Now they found they're dependent on Russian gas.

That is not true on many accounts. The decision to phase out nuclear energy was taken in the beginning of the 2000 years. There was some extension of the operating time when Merkel came to power, which was taken back after Fukushima. This also affects plants which are very old, so would need to be replaced or undergo some severe modernisation anyway. There have been no new German nuclear power plants since the early…

All fair, but 30% is not a small slice.

All of that need to be replaced by something else, and the only thing that's quick enough to replace it was fossil fuel. Germany is also not exactly the ideal place for solar power generation.

It's still leave people scratching over why you guys ditched nuclear energy. The newer version of nuclear reactors are safer than fossil when you factor in pollution, and EU itself has expertise (from France).

Re: Freiburg: Germany's futuristic city set in a forest

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Post by Aperocky »

Krasnol wrote: post #123
mihaaly wrote: post #49

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Which part of the two sentences was hateful and what is not factual in those?

The whole thing paints Germany as some retarded country who didn't know what they're doing and now they need Russian gas. All this neither having the dates right nor making a logical Russian gas connection. It's just a pure hate on Germany bs argument which appears all the time nuclear is the topic.

Look, Russian gas is just a side effect, it's fine to import Russian gas, everyone does it.

But why shutdown nuclear? Yes the decision might be made in 2002, and exacerbated in 2011. The question is still not answered.

Re: Freiburg: Germany's futuristic city set in a forest

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Post by Aperocky »

supergirl wrote: post #133
Aperocky wrote: post #19

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Not just the city, Germany made the decision to shut down ALL of the nuclear power plants when Fukushima happened. Now they found they're dependent on Russian gas.

i don't even have to research this to know it is false. germany just doesn't make decisions on a whim like other countries

I'm still waiting for an explanation of how the decision to shutdown nuclear power is correct versus however long they took to make that decision.

Re: Freiburg: Germany's futuristic city set in a forest

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Post by Ygg2 »

afiori wrote: post #158
jcelerier wrote: post #154

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> The plant is a shrub native to tropical and subtropical regions around the world, including the Americas, Africa, Egypt and India. How dare you grow non-native plants in your german backyard ! This is both a remnant of colonialism AND a danger to local biodiversity.

you need to build an underground greenhouse deep enough to be under aquifers and to be geothermically heated in winter powered by an all zero emission electrical grid

But then your agricultural run off could end up in the ocean. You don't want to kill the whales, do you?

Re: Freiburg: Germany's futuristic city set in a forest

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Post by Krasnol »

Aperocky wrote: post #166
Krasnol wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The whole thing paints Germany as some retarded country who didn't know what they're doing and now they need Russian gas. All this neither having the dates right nor making a logical Russian gas connection. It's just a pure hate on Germany bs argument which appears all the time nuclear is the topic.

Look, Russian gas is just a side effect, it's fine to import Russian gas, everyone does it. But why shutdown nuclear? Yes the decision might be made in 2002, and exacerbated in 2011. The question is still not answered.

Russian gas has absolutely not a single thing to do with nuclear energy. I repeat: it has nothing to do with it.

Why shutdown nuclear? Why do you have to ask me that question when you've been ready to form such a strong opinion in the first place? Did you do no research? Didn't you at least look at the wikipedia article? Something about waste, not needing it, being expensive tech from the last century? Nothing of that came along in your research? No? The single thing that you got from your sources was: "something something Fukushima"? Didn't you at least question this at some point? Because I question your abilities to form an educated opinion here.

Re: Freiburg: Germany's futuristic city set in a forest

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Post by oh_sigh »

danrl wrote: post #53

Not ITT: The obvious topic of crime in Freiburg. OK, in 2019 the lost the lead of city with most crimes per 100.000 inhabitants. But Freiburg still scored 3rd place. Freiburg has many faces and the linked article is a very selective subset of what Freiburg is. Don't be fooled.

What explains the high rate of crime there?
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