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Freiburg: Germany's futuristic city set in a forest

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Re: Freiburg: Germany's futuristic city set in a forest

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400km of bike trails is an insane amount for a small town, assuming they aren’t counting bike lanes. I doubt any of the 1M+ pop cities I’ve lived in came anywhere close to that in bike or MUTs.

I'd call it adequate instead.

> I doubt any of the 1M+ pop cities I’ve lived in came anywhere close to that

And this sad.

Re: Freiburg: Germany's futuristic city set in a forest

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Not ITT: The obvious topic of crime in Freiburg. OK, in 2019 the lost the lead of city with most crimes per 100.000 inhabitants. But Freiburg still scored 3rd place. Freiburg has many faces and the linked article is a very selective subset of what Freiburg is. Don't be fooled.

Re: Freiburg: Germany's futuristic city set in a forest

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> Now they found they're dependent on Russian gas. They always were, maybe you don't recall the shortage in 2009 when Gazprom shut off the gas to Ukraine, which happened 2 years before 3/11 [0]. I jokingly asked if that's why they still kept their wood burning furnaces in the building I lived and why they made it a priority we knew how to keep the backofen going throughout the Winter months and while I got slight a c…

wondering if it got worse - if they did manage to build more nuclear plants like French did (75% from nuclear) instead of closing them all down, maybe Germany will be able to heat their homes without CO2 emissions in winter.

Well, in the past it might have been an option go build more nuclear power plants, but today it isn't. And that is for a simple reason: no one can afford to build new nuclear power plants. Take France: France really depends on nuclear energy and have a fleet of aging plants. They needed to be replaced, but France is not able to do that. They have a single power plant in construction, but it is overrunning costs by far. They would have to replace over 50 plants, yet there are no plans doing so. So even France is exiting nuclear, when the aged plants have to be shut down. They are frightingly extending their life times, so I hoep the shutting down doesn't come by a "mishap" and makes southern Germany uninhabitable.

Re: Freiburg: Germany's futuristic city set in a forest

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Apparently, owning a car is the easiest way to commit social suicide in Vauban — That is the spirit unfortunately. Unfortunately, because once you allow to degrade strangers/neighbors in public for something malign like that, it doesn’t stop there. Because of this Vauban is not always admired, rather sometimes regarded as tax payer funded dystopia for upper class people to live in. E.g. your amount of thrash you can…

I think such behaviour is ok, but that’s because I feel that is what it means to be socially invested. But I also recognize that for other countries this might seem restrictive or weird (as in why would you do that?)

In practice, and I currently live in a socially cohesive neighborhood, in practice it is just very laidback and it’s about helping eachother out and live and let live.

Re: Freiburg: Germany's futuristic city set in a forest

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I lost interest in the city as soon as the article pointed out that the city's "environmentalism" was rooted in opposition to a nuclear power plant. This kind of thinking is backwards and self-destructive.

Not just the city, Germany made the decision to shut down ALL of the nuclear power plants when Fukushima happened. Now they found they're dependent on Russian gas.

That is not true on many accounts. The decision to phase out nuclear energy was taken in the beginning of the 2000 years. There was some extension of the operating time when Merkel came to power, which was taken back after Fukushima. This also affects plants which are very old, so would need to be replaced or undergo some severe modernisation anyway. There have been no new German nuclear power plants since the early 80ies.

Then, Germany always depended on fossil fuels. Nuclear power was never more than 30% of the electricity mix, not counting heating and transportation. And except coal, the fossil fuels are all imported. The only energy source we can grow domestically are renewables.

So yes, we depend on gas import, as this is the cleanest fossil fuel available. Currently most of it is coming from Russia, a trade which is beneficial to both countries. But there would be other sources if needed, the US is applying considerable pressure to Germany, so we buy gas from the US instead.

Re: Freiburg: Germany's futuristic city set in a forest

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post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

wondering if it got worse - if they did manage to build more nuclear plants like French did (75% from nuclear) instead of closing them all down, maybe Germany will be able to heat their homes without CO2 emissions in winter.

Well, in the past it might have been an option go build more nuclear power plants, but today it isn't. And that is for a simple reason: no one can afford to build new nuclear power plants. Take France: France really depends on nuclear energy and have a fleet of aging plants. They needed to be replaced, but France is not able to do that. They have a single power plant in construction, but it is overrunning costs by fa…

> no one can afford to build new nuclear power plants

Except for China and India that is. China has 12 under construction, India has seven under construction.

Re: Freiburg: Germany's futuristic city set in a forest

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It is unreasonable. We over weigh the risk based on the exposure an accident gets, not the death toll . History shows the highest kwh per human life of any energy source.

But there's more to it than the death toll. If something goes bad this would turn a large area into a wasteland, that will be uninhabitable for thousands of years. And how would you prevent future civilizations from opening nuclear waste deposits that should not be opened? I think it's just too complex and we should look for simpler alternives.

Btw, the latter problem led to some interesting research since the eighties, e.g. "Communication Measures to Bridge Ten Millennia" https://www.osti.gov/biblio/6705990

Re: Freiburg: Germany's futuristic city set in a forest

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> why you aren‘t using reusable diapers in the first place. A good question indeed?

Even the Amish use real nappies rather than messing around with reusables.

Real nappies are better for baby and toddler bums, easier for already stressed parents and more hygienic.

Reusables result in massive energy and water waste, they are a health hazard if not washed properly (many manufacturers washing instructions are very inadequate. They must be washed at a minimum of 60°C whatever your manufacturer said), release loads of microplastics and are a lot more work.

Re: Freiburg: Germany's futuristic city set in a forest

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wondering if it got worse - if they did manage to build more nuclear plants like French did (75% from nuclear) instead of closing them all down, maybe Germany will be able to heat their homes without CO2 emissions in winter.

> wondering if it got worse - if they did manage to build more nuclear plants like French did (75% from nuclear) instead of closing them all down, maybe Germany will be able to heat their homes without CO2 emissions in winter. They don't need to build anymore, they just import it. I lived 30km away from Alsace, and despite us having a significant amount of solar on all of our buildings, as did most of the local commu…

So what was the reason for your house being cold other than the ill-timed rennovation?

Germany is a net electricity exporter, we don't "depend" on French nuclear energy. But of course, Germany is part of an Eurpean grid, so depending on the load distribution and the weather, there is a lot of inporting on exporting, because eletricity is traded across long distances. While often there is a significant amount of elektricity going to Germany, that is usually just transiting to other countries. And at other times Germany is exporting to France (which then often is transiting to the UK).

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