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Germany's nuclear power plants are from the 70's and early 80's. How can it be backwards now? Building new plants, while it may safer today than it was back than is just not economical when compared to renewables.
Do you have a source for that? I hear it all the time but can never find good data to compare.
Freiburg: Germany's futuristic city set in a forest
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#102> why you aren‘t using reusable diapers in the first place. A good question indeed?
It's a good question for proving my point.
Claiming the moral high ground should presume posession of moral basics like decency (cutting people some slack, benefit of the doubt). Even more so if the moral high ground is used to shame others pulicly or subjugate to dishonorable treatment.
If not, all the moral grandstanding is just an excuse to behave like a douche.
Thus: people who are annoyed by this leave, with the share of those who think such behavior is ok ever increases
About reusable diapers: To satisfy ethical demands in an environment without decency is never achievable. Reusable diapers? Out of what material are they made? I hope it's environmentally substainable? Were they socially responsibly sourced? Done by a company or coop? Imported from a far away overseas country or produced by your local commune? It. Never. Stops.
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#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think such behaviour is ok, but that’s because I feel that is what it means to be socially invested. But I also recognize that for other countries this might seem restrictive or weird (as in why would you do that?) In practice, and I currently live in a socially cohesive neighborhood, in practice it is just very laidback and it’s about helping eachother out and live and let live.
As an example of the cultural difference you're talking about: I don't think this is social cohesion. This is highly intrusive: people interfering with other peoples' lives, constantly scrutinising and fault-finding, and sticking their noses in where they don't belong. To me it sounds absolutely intolerable.
> To me it sounds absolutely intolerable.
I thought of Sartre's No Exit. But for the type that would go around casting judgement on others for religious infractions in a previous age, it must be paradise.
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Even the Amish use real nappies rather than messing around with reusables. Real nappies are better for baby and toddler bums, easier for already stressed parents and more hygienic. Reusables result in massive energy and water waste, they are a health hazard if not washed properly (many manufacturers washing instructions are very inadequate. They must be washed at a minimum of 60°C whatever your manufacturer said), re…
Are you Procter and Gamble?? The argument for and against reusable is pretty much undecided. There also services which do the washing for you. And they are probably way more efficient than people washing at home in terms of energy used. Anyhow, real eco-parents go diaper-less as most parents in the world. Google split-pants, elimination communication! Compared to this letting children sitting in their own feces in re…
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I see you don't have kids. Even with one, even when we tried to go as eco-friendly way as possible (including using washable diapers with washable paper inserts), there are limits. Eco wash liquids are not as effective, so you end up sometimes washing twice (what's eco about that?). Washable diapers are much less absorbent compared to regular ones, so its not an option for us for night - baby skin would be highly irr…
Go diaper-less, it is easy and clean. I know it is hard to imagine for the western mind. But most human ever lived, have never seen a diaper. There are lot of wrong with diapers e.g. rash etc. Google split-pants, elimination communication!
I kind of don't like this arguments. Most human ever lived without public health and health support. Most people lived without democracy. Western mind is ok. Western mind is great. As all other cultures. Again, I wasn't able to send my kid to kindergarten as diaper-less and the reusable diaper wasn't welcome. It's not about having western mind. It's about daily practicality which in some areas are intrinsic in our society. How was the kindergarten of your kids policy regarding being diaper-less?
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There is a lot of problems with split-pants e.g. children now dribble . It’s not all that big a leap either, there are plenty of gifs of Chinese parents utilizing split-pants to great effect.
Yes children dribble. Elimination communication helps you to not let that happen inside. So why is this not a problem to the Chinese but you make sound like one?
And what happens outside in the urban areas other people also happen to live in?
It evidently is a problem though considering the entire Chinese middle class seem to have switched en masse to disposables, turning China into the largest diaper market in the world over the past decade or so.
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They do a serious assessment of every new technology to decide if it adds value to their society. Disposable nappies are one of the few technologies they decided to use.
> Disposable nappies are one of the few technologies they decided to use. As they don't huddle in caves without tools, the Amish use lots of technology. They actually use fair amounts of modern technology, it's just that the things they reject are pretty central to modern mainstream lifestyle.
The Amish didn't start evaluating new technologies in the stone age. If you look at technologies invented after the hammer, of course you'll have a hammer. But you won't necessarily have a smart phone or an Echo.
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#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think such behaviour is ok, but that’s because I feel that is what it means to be socially invested. But I also recognize that for other countries this might seem restrictive or weird (as in why would you do that?) In practice, and I currently live in a socially cohesive neighborhood, in practice it is just very laidback and it’s about helping eachother out and live and let live.
As an example of the cultural difference you're talking about: I don't think this is social cohesion. This is highly intrusive: people interfering with other peoples' lives, constantly scrutinising and fault-finding, and sticking their noses in where they don't belong. To me it sounds absolutely intolerable.
We live in a society. Although in some countries this very fact is heavily contested.
Too much freedom can be a bad thing. Especially when the government is chronically underfunded to take over the responsibilities.
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#109> why you aren‘t using reusable diapers in the first place. A good question indeed?
It's a good question for proving my point. Claiming the moral high ground should presume posession of moral basics like decency (cutting people some slack, benefit of the doubt). Even more so if the moral high ground is used to shame others pulicly or subjugate to dishonorable treatment. If not, all the moral grandstanding is just an excuse to behave like a douche. Thus: people who are annoyed by this leave, with the…
If you knit them yourself from cotton grew in your background, you should be safe.
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#110Apparently, owning a car is the easiest way to commit social suicide in Vauban — That is the spirit unfortunately. Unfortunately, because once you allow to degrade strangers/neighbors in public for something malign like that, it doesn’t stop there. Because of this Vauban is not always admired, rather sometimes regarded as tax payer funded dystopia for upper class people to live in. E.g. your amount of thrash you can…
It's a cultural thing. Some people can't imagine living wihout a car, others can't imagine using disposable diapers, others can't imagine not forcing women to wear a veil. Or, for example, is your trash production a private affair, or is it a communal responsibility, subject to scrutiny? If you're flexible you can set up your outlook however you think is best. And there are of course prevailing mindsets, depending on…
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